On 12/23/05, Patrick Barnes <nman64@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Fedora is the same way. You can't modify it and continue to call it > Fedora. However, you can redistribute it and rebuild it in pristine > form and continue to call it Fedora. The same is true of Mozilla. I do not think its true that a pristine build of the src.rpm as shipped for mozilla by fedora is allowed according to Mozilla's trademark policy. I have looked at this.. alot. The Mozilla trademark policy says that you can not use the trademarked mozilla icons in your rebuild of the mozilla sources unless you get permission to do so. Even if you think its a verbatim rebuild of a licensed binary. The upstream mozilla sources are constructed in a way that default rebuilds do not incorporate the mozilla trademarks. To get the mozilla trademark icons into the build process you need to use some optional arguments to the configure script to enabled them. This is done explicitly to avoid people accidently running afoul of the trademark policy. To use the mozilla trademarks in your downstream build you must get permission from Mozilla... no if ands or buts. This doesn't transfer to verbatim rebuilds. There is absolutely no languge in Mozilla's trademark policy that says trademark license to use the mozilla marks transfer to a 3rd vendor with verbatim rebuilds from an existing licensed binary from a 2nd vendor. Each new vendor who is rebuilding mozilla source must obtain a license to use the mozilla marks regardless of where they obtained the source they are rebuilding from. Fedora has permission to use the trademarks in its builds and the Fedora src.rpms enable the use of the trademark icons. I have seen absolutely no language anywhere that tranfers this permission to use the mozilla marks to anyone doing unmodified rebuilds of Fedora mozilla packages. Anyone rebuilding with src.rpms from Fedora and attempts to redistribute them also end up using the trademarked icons unless they delibrately turn them off... even though they do not have permission from mozilla to use those icons. This situation breaks the "pure rebuild" policy. Anyone rebuilding mozilla packages from fedora sources, even if unmodified.. must get permission from mozilla to use the trademarks. I'm more than welcome to be contradicted by the mozilla package maintainer or someone else on the release team who has looked over the mozilla trademark policy issues. -jef -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
