On Sat, 2005-12-17 at 14:32 -0500, Sean wrote: > It's not just bit-torrent that's only the current example. If you want > to imagine every possible future exploit you'd never connect any computer > to the internet. yes and no. Those that open their own ports to be forwarded are rather insiduous. They don't rely on an established/related communication, so any data can come down that forward into the client, not just that which is expected. > The point is setting things up to work easily and with little fuss for the > average user. Taking advantage of the facilities provided by their > network to make life easier for them. For those people who don't like > this feature they can (and should!) disable UPnP on their router because > any random appliation could be using it on them otherwise. And the folks that don't understand the evils of upnp are the folks that are going to leave it open. Secure by default, let users hang themselves w/ the rope that is provided in options. > Really, this introduces very little risk and adds quite a bit of > simplification for the average user and is very easy to shut off for > anyone who just isn't comfortable with it. Every bit of little risk adds up into a platform that is risky by default, and folks have to spend effort to 'secure' it after installation. This is a path I would _not_ like to see Fedora go down. -- Jesse Keating RHCE (geek.j2solutions.net) Fedora Legacy Team (www.fedoralegacy.org) GPG Public Key (geek.j2solutions.net/jkeating.j2solutions.pub) Was I helpful? Let others know: http://svcs.affero.net/rm.php?r=jkeating -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list