"up2date-gnome" has a very clear, informative interface. You start with a channel windows that allows you review the available channels and to make your choice. Very nice, indeed. Once the header information is downloaded, a concise but exhaustive package list is displayed, which from you obtain all interesting details like package name, previous version, current version, channel and so on. Furthermore, it's possible to resize the width of the individual columns. Even for a significant number of available packages, you keep an oversight of what is going on. After confirming the package selection you proceed to the clear and informative download window. Individual package download progress and total progress are displayed together with some info in the package that is currently downloaded. The same holds for the package installation step. I also love the summary at the very end which lets you have a final look on which packages got upgraded. And do not forget the neat red/grey coulour scheme :) "pup" with its greyish look and the strange doggy icon that does everything but fit the genuine Bluecurve icon style looks like the little, poor bother of big "up2date-gnome". Its interface is cluttered, the package window only lets you see some packages at once. There is little info on the available updates. In the main window, there is this boring "Updated ... packages available" message for every single package. I would call this redundancy at its best. If you want a bit more information you have to expand the "Update details" window. It won't make you happy either, because where "up2ate-gnome" gave you an exhaustive list for all packages in a single pane, you have to click every single package by hand to obtain at least some basic onformation in the "Update details" window. To summarize, "pup" looks like a layman's vain attempt to imitate "up2ate-gnome". Why reinvent the wheel, when it has already been? "up2ate-gnome" has been around for a couple of years to my greatest satisfaction. It cannot be hard to use "yum" as a backend instead of "up2date", so why start from scratch? > > Would you care to give some constructive feed back as to why you find > pup so intolerable in it's first release version? What about > up2date-gnome did you like and would like to see in the standalone pup? > > > -- > Jesse Keating RHCE (geek.j2solutions.net) > Fedora Legacy Team (www.fedoralegacy.org) > GPG Public Key (geek.j2solutions.net/jkeating.j2solutions.pub) > -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list