Wiki - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/RetirePythonNose Discussion Thread - https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/f43-change-proposal-retire-python-nose-self-contained/144198 This is a proposed Change for Fedora Linux. This document represents a proposed Change. As part of the Changes process, proposals are publicly announced in order to receive community feedback. This proposal will only be implemented if approved by the Fedora Engineering Steering Committee. == Summary == The python-nose package is dead upstream and has been [[Changes/DeprecateNose|deprecated for 5 years in Fedora]]. It [https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2323163 no longer builds with Python 3.14] and it will be retired (removed) from Fedora Linux 43 without replacement. == Owner == * Name: [[User:Churchyard|Miro Hrončok]] * Email: mhroncok@xxxxxxxxxx == Detailed Description == Several dependents on python-nose have been fixed before filing this change. See some progress in https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2323163 and https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/python-devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx/thread/GMXMFW52CWUOYUJA4PGS3GDPESU3EPG5/ == https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx/thread/GMXMFW52CWUOYUJA4PGS3GDPESU3EPG5/ python-nose will be retired (removed from) Fedora Linux 43 after this change is approved but not before Fedora Linux 42 is branched from rawhide. When we retire python-nose, the following packages will fail to build: $ repoquery -q --repo=rawhide{,-source} --whatrequires python3-nose --recursive | grep src$ ProDy-0:2.4.1-11.fc42.src bmap-tools-0:3.7-7.fc42.src hgsvn-0:0.6.0-17.fc42.src nova-agent-0:2.1.25-11.fc42.src openms-2:3.3.0-1.fc42.src python-agate-0:1.12.0-2.fc42.src python-agate-dbf-0:0.2.3-3.fc42.src python-agate-excel-0:0.4.1-3.fc42.src python-agate-sql-0:0.7.2-3.fc42.src python-axolotl-0:0.2.3-13.fc42.src python-binstruct-0:1.0.1-30.fc42.src python-blessings-0:1.7-26.fc42.src python-colorspacious-0:1.1.2-25.fc42.src python-curtsies-0:0.4.2-7.fc42.src python-epc-0:0.0.5-16.fc42.src python-eyed3-0:0.9.7-8.fc42.src python-flask-xml-rpc-0:0.1.2-34.fc41.src python-hglib-0:2.6.2-17.fc42.src python-ifcfg-0:0.21-17.fc42.src python-leather-0:0.4.0-3.fc42.src python-migrate-0:0.13.0-20.fc42.src python-moksha-common-0:1.2.5-35.fc42.src python-neurosynth-0:0.3.8-16.fc42.src python-pygeoip-0:0.2.6-40.fc42.src python-pytest7-0:7.4.3-4.fc42.src python-queuelib-0:1.5.0-23.fc42.src python-rows-0:0.4.1-24.fc42.src python-simplebayes-0:1.5.8-27.fc42.src python-spec-0:1.4.1-19.fc42.src python-statsd-0:3.2.1-32.fc41.src python-supersmoother-0:0.4-30.fc42.src python-tilestache-0:1.51.14-19.fc42.src python-xvfbwrapper-0:0.2.9-26.fc42.src And the following packages will fail to install: $ repoquery -q --repo=rawhide --whatrequires python3-nose --recursive python3-bmaptools-0:3.7-7.fc42.noarch python3-neurosynth-0:0.3.8-16.fc42.noarch python3-nose-testconfig-0:0.10-35.fc42.noarch python3-spec-0:1.4.1-19.fc42.noarch $ (repoquery -q --repo=rawhide --whatrequires python3-nose --recursive --source; repoquery -q --repo=rawhide{,-source} --whatrequires python3-nose --recursive | grep src$) | pkgname | sort | uniq | python find-package-maintainers Maintainers by package: ProDy sagitter bmap-tools aekoroglu hgsvn terjeros nova-agent survient tonyskapunk openms sagitter python-agate jujens python-agate-dbf jujens python-agate-excel jujens python-agate-sql jujens python-axolotl principis python-binstruct besser82 python-blessings salimma python-colorspacious fed500 python-curtsies salimma terjeros python-epc melmorabity python-eyed3 amigadave cicku pjp python-flask-xml-rpc orphan python-hglib terjeros python-ifcfg cottsay python-leather jujens python-migrate jcapitao python-moksha-common lbalhar python-neurosynth lbazan python-nose-testconfig dshea python-pygeoip kevin python-pytest7 thrnciar python-queuelib fab python-rows fab python-simplebayes qulogic python-spec mhayden pghmcfc python-statsd orphan python-supersmoother sergiopr python-tilestache cottsay python-xvfbwrapper mrunge totol Packages by maintainer: aekoroglu bmap-tools amigadave python-eyed3 besser82 python-binstruct cicku python-eyed3 cottsay python-ifcfg python-tilestache dshea python-nose-testconfig fab python-queuelib python-rows fed500 python-colorspacious jcapitao python-migrate jujens python-agate python-agate-dbf python-agate-excel python-agate-sql python-leather kevin python-pygeoip lbalhar python-moksha-common lbazan python-neurosynth melmorabity python-epc mhayden python-spec mrunge python-xvfbwrapper orphan python-flask-xml-rpc python-statsd pghmcfc python-spec pjp python-eyed3 principis python-axolotl qulogic python-simplebayes sagitter ProDy openms salimma python-blessings python-curtsies sergiopr python-supersmoother survient nova-agent terjeros hgsvn python-curtsies python-hglib thrnciar python-pytest7 tonyskapunk nova-agent totol python-xvfbwrapper Fails To Build and Fails To Install bugzillas will be filled for the affected packages. Some of them such as (nose-testconfig) will be retired. Packages that will fail to build will not be able to be rebuilt for Python 3.14 and if not fixed, will eventually also fail to install. Change owners can offer assistance on how to remove the dependency on nose. See some examples linked from https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2323163 == Feedback == No or positive feedback in https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx/thread/GMXMFW52CWUOYUJA4PGS3GDPESU3EPG5/ == Benefit to Fedora == No more kicking the dead nose. == Scope == * Proposal owners: ** Retire python-nose ** File bugzillas for dependent packages * Other developers: ** Drop the dependency or retire the dependents * Release engineering: N/A (not needed for this Change) * Policies and guidelines: N/A (not needed for this Change) * Trademark approval: N/A (not needed for this Change) * Alignment with the Fedora Strategy: == Upgrade/compatibility impact == == Early Testing (Optional) == Do you require 'QA Blueprint' support? N == How To Test == dnf install python3-nose # should fail on Fedora 43+ repoquery -q --repo=fedora --releasever=43 python3-nose # should list nothing (can only be tested after branching) repoquery -q --repo=fedora-source --releasever=43 python-nose # should list nothing (can only be tested after branching) == User Experience == Users of Fedora will no longer be able to install python3-nose via dnf. They can try installing it via pip instead, but should seriously consider not using it. == Dependencies == The [[Changes/Python3.14|Python 3.14 upgrade]] would retire this package anyway. This change proposal is just a courtesy. == Contingency Plan == * Contingency mechanism: N/A (not a System Wide Change) * Contingency deadline: N/A (not a System Wide Change) * Blocks release? No == Documentation == N/A (not a System Wide Change) == Release Notes == -- Aoife Moloney Fedora Operations Architect Fedora Project Matrix: @amoloney:fedora.im IRC: amoloney -- _______________________________________________ devel-announce mailing list -- devel-announce@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-announce-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel-announce@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue -- _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
