Hey everyone. I have a lot of thoughts on this, and they are hard to put in order. The first one probably is "Oh god, please don't set everything on fire right before the holidays". Close candidates, though, are: * I know everyone involved here has Fedora's best interests and heart, and works hard out of love for the project. * Several things went very, very wrong in all of this. As someone who cares a lot about the project and who _has_ done some things very, very wrong in the past, I can see how these are both true at the same time. If the Proven Packager guidelines are ambiguous enough that different readings of them can lead to conflict this strong, we need to clarify them and make sure we have consensus on the confered powers and duties. In any case, FESCo should not be adjucating Code of Conduct or behavioral allegations, and FESCo actions must not be used as a "shadow" CoC enforcement mechanism. I'm not sure today of everything we need to do to make things right, but the Council will work this week on immediate actions before the holiday, and then longer-term in January. -- Matthew Miller <mattdm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Fedora Project Leader -- _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue