On Mon, 2024-12-16 at 10:17 +0000, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote: > Looking at our guidance > > https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fesco/Provenpackager_policy/ > > It is very non-specific > > "Prior to making changes, provenpackagers should try to communicate > with owners of a package in bugzilla, dist-git pull requests, IRC, > matrix, or email." > > This is sooo vague & open to interpretation I can easily see how differences > of opinion can arise from this. If you send an email, how long do you have > to wait for a response ? If you don't get an email response do you have to > open a bugzilla too, or is lack of email response enough to allow you to go > ahead ? If 1 communication attempt is not sufficient, is two different > attempts sufficient, or do they have to try all 5 methods of communication > listed ? Combine that with "personal preferences" and it is surprising there > are not more conflicts seen. It's also difficult to really always honor. As a PP I certainly touch packages without checking in first, sometimes, when it's necessary e.g. to fix Rawhide compose or a problem that's causing tests to fail for all updates, or something. It's possible to go too far, and I've been guilty of that once or twice, and acknowledged it and apologized to the maintainer involved. I always thought that would be a sufficient resolution to the matter. This process does make me worry that I might get suddenly de-pp'ed at some point too. I try not to join torch-bearing mobs and I'd like to trust the wisdom of FESCo, but reading the proceedings so far and knowing Peter, I have to add my voice to those who are a bit concerned about this and would like more details made public, and an explanation of the process here and whether and how FESCo feels Peter was given sufficient opportunity to represent himself. -- Adam Williamson (he/him/his) Fedora QA Fedora Chat: @adamwill:fedora.im | Mastodon: @adamw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx https://www.happyassassin.net -- _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
