On Fri, Dec 13, 2024 at 05:33:10PM -0800, Josh Stone wrote: > On Tuesday (2024-12-10), the Fedora Engineering Steering Committee > (FESCo) met in a private meeting to discuss whether Fedora contributor > Peter Robinson should retain his provenpackager privileges. Over the > last year, multiple private tickets have been opened with FESCo > regarding Peter’s packaging behavior. In particular, on numerous > occasions Peter has pushed uncommunicated updates to packages he has no > prior relationship with, interfering with those packages’ maintenance > efforts. On at least a few occasions, this has resulted in other > maintainers being forced to react to these changes with no coordination > or notice. If there are "numerous occasions", then can you show us some of these occasions? I'm concerned here, because for RISC-V we are pushing quite a lot of changes to numerous packages. We do this through pull requests, but packagers often don't engage at all even after months, resulting in us having to push changes anyway. We don't push changes if the packager objects within a reasonable amount of time, and we always try to keep the changes as minimal as possible, so I think we're within this policy: > The Fedora Proven Packager Policy[1] reads: “Provenpackagers lend a hand > when help is needed, always with a desire to improve the quality of > Fedora. Prior to making changes, provenpackagers should try to > communicate with owners of a package in bugzilla, dist-git pull > requests, IRC, matrix, or email. They should be careful not to change > other people’s packages needlessly and try to do the minimal changes > required to fix problems, as explained more in depth in ‘Who is Allowed > to Modify Which Packages’[2].” ... but it's hard to know and examples would be helpful. Rich. > Despite several warnings and conversations with FESCo representatives, > Peter has continued to use his provenpackager privileges in an > unapproved manner, frequently causing additional work for other > maintainers. As a result of more than a month of debate in the latest > private FESCo ticket on his conduct, the Committee voted – seven in > favor, two against – to remove Peter from the provenpackager group in > Fedora. Peter will retain his status as a Fedora packager, but will not > be able to use provenpackager powers to bypass the review process on any > package for which he is not a co-maintainer. > > FESCo would like to make this abundantly clear: this decision was not > made lightly, nor without consideration for Peter’s past contributions > to the Fedora Project. This decision is not irrevocable: Peter will be > permitted to re-apply in the future for provenpackager status, provided > he demonstrates a justified need for those privileges and remains in > good standing as a Fedora packager. > > Signed, > Fedora Engineering Steering Committee > > > [1] https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fesco/Provenpackager_policy/ > [2] > https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fesco/Who_is_allowed_to_modify_which_packages/ > > -- > _______________________________________________ > devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ > List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue -- Richard Jones, Virtualization Group, Red Hat http://people.redhat.com/~rjones Read my programming and virtualization blog: http://rwmj.wordpress.com libguestfs lets you edit virtual machines. Supports shell scripting, bindings from many languages. http://libguestfs.org -- _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
