On Mon, 2024-11-11 at 11:58 +0100, Lukas Ruzicka wrote:
Well, I am very sad about this step and I feel very sorry that you are trying to remove the word karma from the process. I believe that Karma denotes one of the most powerful, the most noble, and the most fair principles of this world, because traditionally it is above this world.Kudos, or anything you have suggested, is far less.
I have a very feint idea a very faint idea"kudos" even means - I guess "you did fine/did something nice ?" I guess in the context of some limited subset of anglophone countries. Definitely less known globally than karma. And I don't even want to think how negative/neutral kudos would make sense...
The Linux world has always had a kind of "lore" with interesting project names, acronyms, which mostly were made up as "pun intended". I do not understand why anybody has an urge to take this away.Please, think twice about it, because the world will always get you people that want to diminish the meaning of your contribution to the project by claiming that your work is not noble/tolerant/clean/you-name-it enough. Once you take a step back, they will take up new positions and they'll start pushing again.
Yeah, if you want to avoid endless bikeshedding and complaints about small details, a line needs to be drawn at some point.
And you will hardly get back what you let go.On Mon, Nov 11, 2024 at 9:16 AM Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek <zbyszek@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:On Mon, Nov 11, 2024 at 08:47:57AM +0100, Sandro wrote:
> On 11-11-2024 08:27, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:
> > On Sun, Nov 10, 2024 at 03:18:49PM +0000, Mattia Verga via devel wrote:
> > > I have started to move away Bodhi from using the term "karma" to rate
> > > updates. I know this word has become familiar to all Fedora users, but
> > > there were several requests in the past to stop the misuse. As I may not
> > > be the most "politically correct" person you know, this task has been
> > > low priority for me; nevertheless, I've now found some spare time to
> > > start working on it.
> > >
> > > So, I plan to replace the term "karma" with "feedback" where users
> > > submit their (+1|0|-1) vote: a Comment will no more have the "karma"
> > > property, but it will be "feedback". At the same time, TestCaseKarma and
> > > BugKarma will become TestCaseFeedback and BugFeedback.
> > >
> > > For updates, the term "karma" is used as the sum of all karma|feedback
> > > submitted by users, so I plan to rename this to "rating". English is not
> > > my native language, but I think it is correct to rate an update
> > > positive|neutral|negative and rating should be quite understandable to
> > > foreign speakers.
> >
> > Is this decision final? "karma" is a distinct term that is not easily
> > confused. But if you tell me that an update had a negative "rating",
> > people in Fedora will not know what you're talking about. The word
> > is much more generic.
>
> How about replacing the term "karma" with "kudos"? It has a similar ring to
> it and should be uncontroversial.
That's a great idea. If we are to change, please do 'kudos' rather
'rating'/'feedback'/'evaluation'.
Zbyszek
> Could the icon above the colon voor neutral (neither positive nor negative)
> be changed at the same time to make it more distinct? It now uses the same
> thumbs up as the positive colon, wrongly suggesting the default selection
> being positive karma|kudos|feedback when it actually doesn't add to the
> count.
>
> -- Sandro
>
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