On Wed, Nov 6, 2024 at 12:59 PM Kilian Hanich via devel <devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > Am 06.11.24 um 11:32 schrieb Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek: > >> That's not how standards work. It's behaviour undefined by the > >> standard, i.e. undefined behaviour. If it isn't forbidden, or strictly > >> defined, it's still standard compliant. > > I think we'll have to agree to disagree. If it's "undefined behaviour" > > than it's not "standard compliant". > > I am just going to leave this here, so *all* of you are on the same page: > > A standard (doesn't matter which) can define certain things, outlaw > certain things or leave things undefined. > > We often have multiple different standard at play and things get VERY > interesting when the definitions clash, but this isn't relevant here and > too messy to leave in an email, but the outcome depends on the clash. > > Anyway in case every involved standard leaves something undefined, an > implementor of a standard can go and either define it itself (in which > case the behaviour is clear again) or leave it undefined. The implemetor > in this case would be Fedora, I guess. As far as I understand things, > this case wasn't defined, so it's still undefined. > > In case a behaviour is undefined, the actually measured behaviour can be > random, it can just not work, or do something else, and it can change > even every patch. > > Relying on undefined behaviour, no matter the situation or standard, is > always a bug and brittle. > It isn't undefined behaviour, the behaviour is cleanly defined in the grub documentation. It's undefined in the BLS. Although BLS wasn't our primary goal (our goal is a working product), I am ready to do my best to improve things according to standards, BLS including thanks & regards Jaroslav -- _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
