Re: RFC: Moving to -O3 for Fedora Linux

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On Thu, 31 Oct 2024 at 07:32, Jakub Jelinek <jakub@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> On Wed, Oct 30, 2024 at 10:46:01PM -0400, Neal Gompa wrote:
> > I know the idea of moving to -O3 has been briefly mentioned before in
> > other contexts when we've discussed uplifting the flags, but it looks
> > like Ubuntu is moving to -O3 for Ubuntu 25.04[1]. Is there a reason
> > why we shouldn't consider doing the same for Fedora Linux 42?
>
> Yes, this is a very bad idea.
>
> -O3 significantly increases code size (and the speed up gains aren't really
> guaranteed), which is highly undesirable when the vast majority of code in
> the distro isn't performance critical, the I-cache footprint is then more
> important.  Especially when -O2 in GCC performs some vectorization already
> for years and it is going to be used more at -O2 in GCC 15 (but the
> heuristics for -O2 vectorization is avoid significant code increases).
>
> -O3 should be used just for performance critical code, which is found to be
> hot in profiling and proved to help performance of the code.
> Better yet, performance criticial code should use PGO (profile guided
> optimizations) so that only the hot parts of the code are automatically
> optimized for speed and cold parts for size.  With reasonable workload used
> during package build for the profile feedback generation.
>
> There are some packages in the distro which use PGO (e.g. gcc itself), but
> I think e.g. SUSE packages use PGO far more often than in Fedora.

How does SUSE choose to use PGO? Is that a manual process where the
maintainer chooses to turn it on for a particular library or binary?
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