===================================== # #meeting:fedoraproject.org: fesco ===================================== Meeting started by @sgallagh:fedora.im at 2024-08-27 17:00:57 Full meeting logs available at https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/meeting_matrix_fedoraproject-org/2024-08-27/fesco.2024-08-27-17.00.log.html Overview: ------------- Today we processed through all of the Changes scheduled for Fedora 41 that are not marked as ON_QA. The discussion for most was quite peremptory, merely checking whether the status was accurate (Change was incomplete) or inaccurate (the Change Owner had finished the work and forgotten to update the ticket). The results are below. Also, if you attended Flock (physically or virtually) or have an opinion on how Flock should be organized next year, please fill out the survey at https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/your-feedback-matters-flock-to-fedora-2024-post-event-survey/129743 Meeting summary --------------- * TOPIC: Init Process (@sgallagh:fedora.im, 17:01:11) * TOPIC: #3262 Permanent Updates Policy exception for uv (@sgallagh:fedora.im, 17:03:41) * AGREED: The "uv" package is granted a permanent stable updates exception (+7, 0, -0) (@sgallagh:fedora.im, 17:14:51) * TOPIC: #3264 Incomplete Changes Report for Fedora Linux 41 (@sgallagh:fedora.im, 17:15:13) * TOPIC: Incomplete Change: Python 3.13 (@sgallagh:fedora.im, 17:17:19) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Python3.13 (@sgallagh:fedora.im, 17:17:28) * INFO: There are still 59 packages in Fedora 41 that have not been rebuilt with Python 3.13 yet. (@zbyszek:fedora.im, 17:17:42) * INFO: Change is ON_QA and sufficiently complete at this stage (@sgallagh:fedora.im, 17:20:15) * TOPIC: IPU6 Camera Support (@sgallagh:fedora.im, 17:20:31) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/IPU6_Camera_support (@sgallagh:fedora.im, 17:20:38) * INFO: Ticket is in MODIFIED state. (@zbyszek:fedora.im, 17:20:52) * INFO: Change is feature complete, but with some open bugs. (@sgallagh:fedora.im, 17:22:13) * TOPIC: RPM 4.20 (@sgallagh:fedora.im, 17:22:28) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/RPM-4.20 (@sgallagh:fedora.im, 17:22:36) * INFO: Ticket was updated to ON_QA today. (@zbyszek:fedora.im, 17:22:40) * TOPIC: Golang 1.23 (@sgallagh:fedora.im, 17:23:35) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/golang1.23 (@sgallagh:fedora.im, 17:23:41) * AGREED: We allow them to revise the Change to be just about shipping the compiler. We don't advertise anything implying that packages were rebuilt USING that compiler. We allow packages to build as their maintainers see fit, within the normal confines of the Freezes and Stable Updates Policy. (+6, 0, -0) (@sgallagh:fedora.im, 17:35:38) * TOPIC: Systemd Security Hardening (@sgallagh:fedora.im, 17:36:11) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/SystemdSecurityHardening (@sgallagh:fedora.im, 17:36:18) * AGREED: Ask them to revise the title to something indicating "F41 progress" and edit Release Notes section with highlights. (+6, 0, -0) (@sgallagh:fedora.im, 17:42:01) * TOPIC: Netavark Nftables Default (@sgallagh:fedora.im, 17:42:18) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/NetavarkNftablesDefault (@sgallagh:fedora.im, 17:42:24) * INFO: Ticket was moved to ON_QA (@sgallagh:fedora.im, 17:45:21) * TOPIC: Haskell GHC 9.6 and Stackage LTS 22 (@sgallagh:fedora.im, 17:43:47) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Haskell_GHC_9.6_and_Stackage_22 (@sgallagh:fedora.im, 17:43:52) * INFO: Ticket was moved to ON_QA today. (@sgallagh:fedora.im, 17:44:49) * TOPIC: Make Tuned the Default Power Profile Management Daemon (@sgallagh:fedora.im, 17:45:56) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/TunedAsTheDefaultPowerProfileManagementDaemon (@sgallagh:fedora.im, 17:46:03) * AGREED: This Change blocks Beta for Fedora 41. (+6, 0, -0) (@sgallagh:fedora.im, 17:59:34) * ACTION: Conan Kudo to handle filing a blocker BZ for this Change (@sgallagh:fedora.im, 18:02:03) * TOPIC: Libvirt Virtual Network NFTables (@sgallagh:fedora.im, 18:02:19) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/LibvirtVirtualNetworkNFTables (@sgallagh:fedora.im, 18:02:27) * INFO: This is believed to be complete. sgallagh will reach out to the Change Owner for confirmation. (@sgallagh:fedora.im, 18:07:48) * TOPIC: Confidential Virtualization Host with AMD SEV-SNP (@sgallagh:fedora.im, 18:08:08) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/ConfidentialVirtHostAMDSEVSNP (@sgallagh:fedora.im, 18:08:14) * AGREED: Defer Change to Fedora 42 (+5, 0, -0) (@sgallagh:fedora.im, 18:11:49) * TOPIC: KDE Plasma Mobile Spin & Fedora Kinoite Spin\ (@sgallagh:fedora.im, 18:12:26) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Fedora_KDE_Plasma_Mobile (@sgallagh:fedora.im, 18:12:34) * INFO: Images exist and BZ was moved to ON_QA (@sgallagh:fedora.im, 18:14:18) * INFO: Kinoite Mobile ISOs will not be available for Fedora 41 (@sgallagh:fedora.im, 18:14:58) * TOPIC: Enable bootupd for Fedora Silverblue & Kinoite (@sgallagh:fedora.im, 18:15:39) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2150982 (@sgallagh:fedora.im, 18:15:45) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/FedoraSilverblueBootupd (@sgallagh:fedora.im, 18:16:28) * INFO: This is now ON_QA and is testable for Beta (@sgallagh:fedora.im, 18:17:58) * TOPIC: mkosi-initrd (@sgallagh:fedora.im, 18:18:53) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/mkosi-initrd (@sgallagh:fedora.im, 18:18:59) * INFO: Change Owner has deferred this Change to Fedora 42 (@sgallagh:fedora.im, 18:19:12) * TOPIC: OstreeNativeContainerStable (@sgallagh:fedora.im, 18:19:34) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/OstreeNativeContainerStable (@sgallagh:fedora.im, 18:19:40) * AGREED: Reject this change and request that smaller ones be resubmitted for Fedora 42. (+5, 0, -0) (@sgallagh:fedora.im, 18:25:02) * TOPIC: PyTorch 2.4 (@sgallagh:fedora.im, 18:25:30) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/PyTorch2.4 (@sgallagh:fedora.im, 18:25:30) * INFO: This is now ON_QA (@sgallagh:fedora.im, 18:26:02) * TOPIC: ROCm 6.2 (@sgallagh:fedora.im, 18:26:34) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/ROCm6.2 (@sgallagh:fedora.im, 18:26:36) * AGREED: Permit this to land anytime before Final Freeze, revisit decision at that time. (+5, 0, -0) (@sgallagh:fedora.im, 18:31:26) * TOPIC: Reduce the amount of "dontaudit" rules pertaining to unlabeled_t (@sgallagh:fedora.im, 18:31:40) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/SELinux_dontaudit_unlabeled_t (@sgallagh:fedora.im, 18:31:46) * AGREED: Defer this Change to F42 (+5, 0, -0) (@sgallagh:fedora.im, 18:37:42) * TOPIC: Taskwarrior 3 (@sgallagh:fedora.im, 18:38:01) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Taskwarrior3 (@sgallagh:fedora.im, 18:38:11) * INFO: Punting the decision on this Change until next week. (+5, 0, -0) (@sgallagh:fedora.im, 18:44:31) * TOPIC: GNU Toolchain Update (gcc 14+, binutils 2.42+, glibc 2.40, gdb 14+) (@sgallagh:fedora.im, 18:45:04) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2274811 (@sgallagh:fedora.im, 18:45:14) * INFO: This has been in place since March. (@sgallagh:fedora.im, 18:46:02) * TOPIC: Fedora Miracle (@sgallagh:fedora.im, 18:46:45) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2282169 (@sgallagh:fedora.im, 18:46:52) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/FedoraMiracle (@sgallagh:fedora.im, 18:47:59) * INFO: This is pretty much ready, just awaiting a compose. (@sgallagh:fedora.im, 18:48:38) * TOPIC: LLVM 19 (@sgallagh:fedora.im, 18:49:09) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/LLVM-19 (@sgallagh:fedora.im, 18:49:31) * LINK: https://copr.fedorainfracloud.org/coprs/g/fedora-llvm-team/llvm19/ (@jistone:fedora.im, 18:49:56) * INFO: The late landing of LLVM was planned for in the original proposal. It will land during Beta Freeze. (@sgallagh:fedora.im, 18:51:17) * TOPIC: fedora-repoquery tool (@sgallagh:fedora.im, 18:52:03) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/fedora-repoquery_tool (@sgallagh:fedora.im, 18:52:13) * TOPIC: This Change is ON_QA now (@sgallagh:fedora.im, 18:53:17) * TOPIC: Switch to dnf5 (@sgallagh:fedora.im, 18:53:28) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/SwitchToDnf5 (@sgallagh:fedora.im, 18:53:43) * AGREED: ping maintainers for a update and revisit next week (+5, 0, -0) (@sgallagh:fedora.im, 18:58:41) * TOPIC: Next Week's Chair (@sgallagh:fedora.im, 18:58:50) * ACTION: Conan Kudo to chair the 2024-09-03 meeting (@sgallagh:fedora.im, 19:01:29) * TOPIC: Open Floor (@sgallagh:fedora.im, 19:01:36) * LINK: https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/your-feedback-matters-flock-to-fedora-2024-post-event-survey/129743 (@sgallagh:fedora.im, 19:07:10) * INFO: Please fill out the survey! 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