Re: Fedora rawhide (to be f41) and openssl engines

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Hi Dima,

> On 22. Jul 2024, at 13:34, Dmitry Belyavskiy <dbelyavs@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> 
> Dear colleagues,
> 
> as the changes described in
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/OpensslDeprecateEngine
> 
> were approved and implemented and a week or two has passed, we can
> summarize the consequences.
> 
> Lack of openssl/engine.h file moved to a separate package is not
> processed correctly by packages and requires changes in specs which
> also comes with a cost. OpenSSL ABI is kept.
> 
> On the other hand, CentOS stream uses a different approach when
> openssl keeps ABI, doesn't ship openssl/engine.h, and defines
> OPENSSL_NO_ENGINE explicitly, so old applications keep working and at
> the same time new application can mostly be rebuilt without
> significant problems.
> I understand that Fedora has much more packages but there are much
> less complaints from CentOS/RHEL than from Fedora.
> 
> So I wonder if it's worth changing the engine deprecation mechanism in
> Fedora to the one we have in CentOS and if yes, what is the mechanism
> for such a change.

I believe the answer is yes.

I’m working on making sure we catch all users of the ENGINE API and tell them about this change in https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2296114.
I’ve recently been pointed to https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fesco/Mass_package_changes/, which explains the process to follow when mass-filing bugs.

I don’t know whether there would be any specific other Fedora process we would have to follow — maybe others can chime in on this.


-- 
Clemens Lang
RHEL Crypto Team
Red Hat



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