On 21/10/05, Mike Hearn <mike@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > People using the autopackage - they must find out by some other means that > > an update is available to fix a problem they may not know exists. > > Don't panic, it's just a bug. We have quite detailed blueprints for > an automatic online update service, it just hasn't been implemented yet. Autopackage has been "solving the world hunger" for the past few years. It has failed so far (I've seen a bonafide .package file offered to me ONCE in my entire life), and there are no indications that the "tides" will turn. Nobody is interested in a Packaging and Updating System to Obsolete All Packaging and Updating Systems, since every major distribution has already moved on past this problem: * With Debian/Ubuntu you can already install almost any bit of software ever written * Fedora Extras is getting us there * Gentoo et al are also not interested * Linspire has their own system * Proprietary vendors just release statically compiled tarballs, or generally lack clue (usually both) Why are you so set on making it more difficult to support the systems? In our previous conversation on the Ubuntu list, I've already shown you how Autopackage will lead to problems, since its dependency tracking only checks for things that are required by the package currently installed: * foo requires libbaz-1.0, which autopackage fetches and installs * bar requires libbaz-2.0, which autopackage fetches and installs * foo stops working, since its dependency is no longer there If your answer starts with "b" and ends with "undle", then how is this different from LSB RPMs and the aforementioned statically-happy vendors? Can you state clearly the problem that autopackage is trying to solve? As a bonus, can you state clearly how autopackage won't ultimately do more harm by potentially breaking systems or leaving them vulnerable, since it won't do updates? And when it does become smart enough to do updates, can you tell us how your claim that "repositories are not sustainable" will still hold true? It seems to me that you're repeatedly trying to enter a door that's no longer there. -- Konstantin Ryabitsev http://www.mricon.com/ -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
