On Wed, Jul 03, 2024 at 11:14:56AM -0500, Chris Adams wrote: > I got bit on an EPEL 8 system by upgrading munin-node and losing > networking to my podman containers. I started digging and found that > munin uses the %firewalld_reload macro in %post. Then I dug a little > more and found that there's a number of packages that use that macro. > > That's a bad idea IMHO - firewalld explicitly has the idea of transient > config, and installing/upgrading any RPM that has this macro in %post > will discard any current transient config with no warning. This could > be from other services (i.e. podman in my case) but also temporary admin > config. If services are adding non-persistent configs to firewalld, then I think that they probably need to be monitoring firewalld such that they can re-create transient config when needed. Aside from live reloads, the firewalld daemon can also be restarted at any time. In libvirt when we detect firewalld, we then put a DBus watch on the signal org.freedesktop.DBus.NameOwnerChanged, matching on the name 'org.fedoraproject.FirewallD1' to catch restarts. The 'org.fedoraproject.FirewallD1.Reloaded' dbus signal can catch reloads. In both cases, when the signal is seen, libvirt then re-creates its transient configs With regards, Daniel -- |: https://berrange.com -o- https://www.flickr.com/photos/dberrange :| |: https://libvirt.org -o- https://fstop138.berrange.com :| |: https://entangle-photo.org -o- https://www.instagram.com/dberrange :| -- _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue