Re: F41 Change Proposal: Anaconda as native Wayland application (System Wide)

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On 11. 06. 24 11:53, Neal Gompa wrote:
On Tue, Jun 11, 2024 at 10:41 AM Jiri Konecny <jkonecny@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On 04. 06. 24 14:27, Neal Gompa wrote:
On Tue, Jun 4, 2024 at 8:23 AM Jiri Konecny <jkonecny@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

On 03. 06. 24 21:57, Jason L Tibbitts III wrote:
Aoife Moloney <amoloney@xxxxxxxxxx> writes:
=== VNC switch to RDP for remote GUI installations ===
I'm curious how my usual install workflow will be affected by this
change.  I use the kickstart "vnc --connect" option extensively in my
workflow; I may have a bunch of installs running in parallel, and they
just connect and display when they are ready.  I use vinagre as the vnc
client.

It's not a huge thing; I could come up with another workflow but that's
the one I've used since before Fedora existed.  The installs are fully
automated and the display connection is only used so that I can see the
progress and potentially interact with a machine if it encounters a
problem.  I guess in the worst case I could just do the install blind
and ssh in if something takes too long.
Hi, the only change should be that you will change "vnc --connect" with
the new API we will provide and also use RDP as your client instead of VNC.

Given that gnome-remote-desktop supports both VNC and RDP, can't VNC
support still be wired up?

Hi, it is theoretically possible but we are not planning to do that
until there will be a reason for that. AFAIK it's not that simple change
to do that.

I think the reason is pretty obvious: there are many more high quality
VNC clients than there are RDP ones. And even ignoring that, the
existing Anaconda workflows for remote GUI expect VNC. There is no
technical limitation preventing us from having VNC support through
grd. In fact, one of the original reasons I wrote the Weston backend
for Anaconda was so that I could have VNC for Linux and web clients,
because the RDP clients are not very good in my experience.

In any case, I would see this more like a future improvement if we agree to go this way. I would like to simplify things for now, it's already a big change.

Anyway, Jonas, could you please share your recommendation here as owner of grd? Do you think that VNC should be enabled in grd?

Best Regards,
Jirka
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