Wiki - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Separate_dtrace_package Discussion Thread - https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/f41-change-proposal-separate-package-for-dtrace-from-systemtap-sdt-devel-self-contained/119451 This is a proposed Change for Fedora Linux. This document represents a proposed Change. As part of the Changes process, proposals are publicly announced in order to receive community feedback. This proposal will only be implemented if approved by the Fedora Engineering Steering Committee. == Summary == Split <code>/usr/bin/dtrace</code> from <code>systemtap-sdt-devel</code> ({{package|systemtap}}) into a separate package to optimize many buildroots by removing unnecessary Python dependencies. == Owner == * Name: [[User:lbalhar| Lumír Balhar]] * Email: lbalhar@xxxxxxxxxx == Detailed Description == The package <code>systemtap-sdt-devel</code> currently contains header files and the script <code>/usr/bin/dtrace</code>, which is written in Python and uses pycparser. This results in unnecessary Python and pycparser installations for many packages that do not need the script (and many times Python at all), as they only require the header files. Moreover, some important packages (like perl-devel) require systemtap-sdt-devel which means hundreds of Perl packages have Python installed in their buildroots because of the single script they don't need. The idea was tested on all packages build-requiring perl-devel but don't build-requiring python-devel directly - 520 in total. And from that number: * 7 failed to build for unrelated reasons * 3 packages have python3-devel in buildroot (different reasons than systempat-sdt-devel) * 81 packages have python3-libs but not python3-devel (different reasons than systemtap-sdt-devel) and finally, the rest - 436 packages - builds fine without the Python script in systemtap-sdt-devel and therefore without Python at all. Further testing on packages directly requiring systemtap-sdt-devel identified the following needing the dtrace script: * glib2 * sssd * qemu * python2.7 * postgresql15 * postgresql16 * perl * php * mariadb10.11 * libvirt Those will depend on a new package to which we move the script. == Feedback == The proposal has been positively received on the [https://lists.fedorahosted.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx/thread/4HKXN77BMFHRMXC7BU2HXECIKOI7B6CS/#4HKXN77BMFHRMXC7BU2HXECIKOI7B6CS Fedora devel list]. == Benefit to Fedora == By splitting the <code>/usr/bin/dtrace</code> script into a separate package, we reduce the buildroot size and improve build times for hundreds of packages that do not require Python. == Scope == * Proposal owners: # Move the script to a new package <code>systemtap-sdt-dtrace</code> and update <code>systemtap-sdt-devel</code> to require this new package for backward compatibility. # Update affected packages to depend on <code>systemtap-sdt-dtrace</code>. # Remove the backward-compatible requirement from <code>systemtap-sdt-devel</code>. * Other developers: Review and merge proposed changes, and report any bugs. * Release engineering: N/A (not needed for this Change) * Policies and guidelines: N/A (not needed for this Change) * Trademark approval: N/A (not needed for this Change) * Alignment with the Fedora Strategy: N/A (not needed for this Change) == Upgrade/compatibility impact == == How To Test == Package maintainers can proactively prepare their packages after the first step from the plan above is implemented. Failed builds identifying packages requiring changes are available in [https://copr.fedorainfracloud.org/coprs/lbalhar/sdt-devel-no-dtrace/ COPR]. Maintainers can also build and test their packages with the version of systemtap-sdt-devel from which the script has been removed. == User Experience == Regular distro users shouldn't notice any change. == Dependencies == == Contingency Plan == * Contingency mechanism: Change owner will revert the change in {{package|systemtap}}. * Contingency deadline: N/A (not a System Wide Change) <!-- REQUIRED FOR SYSTEM WIDE CHANGES --> * Blocks release? 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