On Fri, 2024-03-01 at 13:27 -0600, Jason Tibbitts wrote: > > > > > > Adam Williamson <adamwill@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> writes: > > > Honestly, we could really use more automation here, but it's a fairly > > hard thing to do *reliably* and there just isn't anybody specifically > > tasked with it so it doesn't happen. > > So sure, we could use something but it doesn't have to start out as some > complex fully automatic system. (Would be nice, but...) > > Can we agree that we'd be at least half of the way there if we just had > a well defined way to: > > * Know what package depend on the one you're updating > > * Easily bump and chain-build all of that in a side tag > > Surely there's a reopquery or fedrq command line that will find at least > most of what needs to be rebuilt. It doesn't have to be absolutely > perfect but it can't be that hard to get close. I know there's a > distinction between build and runtime dependencies and rich/conditional > dependencies complicate things a bit, but those much smarter than I am > must have already figured out how to get something that's at least > somewhat useful. > > Once you have the package list, maybe it needs some kind of sorting > before you can just bump and chain-build things, but I think in many > cases it doesn't. So, yes, a 100% tool would be really hard but the 80% > tool really shouldn't be that bad, and almost any tool would really help > people out. Yeah, for sure, that's why I'm trying to nibble around the edges by updating the docs to strongly encourage chain builds, document using fedpkg chain-build on a side tag, and hopefully get fedpkg chain-build enhanced so it can create the side tag and the final update automatically. If we can get that, then I can make the docs explain how to use it. ISTR there've been several recent discussions of complex dep chains on this very list where people have floated candidates for repoquery/fedrq commands...if there's one we're pretty confident is The Best, we can definitely plumb that into the docs at least (plumbing it all the way into fedpkg might be a step too far, though). -- Adam Williamson (he/him/his) Fedora QA Fedora Chat: @adamwill:fedora.im | Mastodon: @adamw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx https://www.happyassassin.net -- _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue