Re: F40 Change Proposal: F40 Change Proposal: Unify /usr/bin and /usr/sbin (System-Wide)

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On Fri, Feb 23, 2024 at 8:04 AM Sérgio Basto <sergio@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> On Thu, 2024-02-22 at 20:36 -0500, Neal Gompa wrote:
> > On Thu, Feb 22, 2024 at 8:32 PM Sérgio Basto <sergio@xxxxxxxxxx>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > On Sun, 2024-01-28 at 20:14 +0000, Neal Gompa wrote:
> > > > On Sun, Jan 28, 2024 at 7:54 PM Gary Buhrmaster
> > > > <gary.buhrmaster@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > On Wed, Dec 20, 2023 at 7:54 PM Aoife Moloney
> > > > > <amoloney@xxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Wiki ->
> > > > > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Unify_bin_and_sbin
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > One additional item to consider is to review
> > > > > the packager guidelines for use of /sbin
> > > > > (and /usr/sbin) in additional locations from
> > > > > those involved directly with installing binaries.
> > > > >
> > > > > In particular, I am thinking of the sysusers
> > > > > examples where the use of /sbin/nologin
> > > > > should, perhaps, be changed to /usr/bin/nologin.
> > > > >
> > > > > There are almost certainly other places
> > > > > in the docs/guidelines.
> > > > >
> > > > > The documentation updates are always
> > > > > the most annoying in my experience.
> > > >
> > > > We cannot change this without breaking backward compatibility.
> > > > It'll
> > > > have to stay that way until RHEL 9 falls out of support.
> > >
> > >
> > > That is a good argument to not change it , why we need break
> > > backward
> > > compatibility ?
> > >
> >
> > Nah. It just means we don't change any configuration or PATH stuff,
> > which is fine because the sbin -> bin symlink will cover it.
> >
>
> I strongly disagree with you , we should avoid break backward
> compatibility , unless we got a very good reason , which is not the
> case
>

We're not breaking backward compatibility. We would install a symlink
pointing sbin to bin, which ensures any absolute path usage of
binaries formerly in sbin will still work.

> > > is not sbin for super users and bin for users ?
> > >
> >
> > No. This is one of those many myths about the "Unix FHS". And it
> > doesn't even matter much these days anyway, since most newer
> > administrative tools don't install in sbin anyway.
> >
>
> name it one , I'm not aware.
>

Sure: dnf.



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