Roberto Ragusa wrote: > Auditors are constantly proposing disabling features and making things > inconvenient, undebuggable, inefficient and substantially annoying to > operate. > > They should instead learn some basic concepts of security. > For example: if you are running a process, even in a VM or container, you > have to trust the administrator of the host system. And that's it. +1. Disabling important debugging tools in the name of "security" is a no go. Also goes for ptrace etc. The worst invasive security nightmares actually come from the security folks themselves, e.g., auditd, which keeps a meticulous log of just about everything you do that the NSA (or other countries' equivalent) can conveniently read if they ever manage to compromise your computer. That contraption is one of the first things I disable on my computers! Kevin Kofler -- _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue