On fredag 9. februar 2024 17:41:33 CET Neal Gompa wrote: > On Fri, Feb 9, 2024 at 11:06 AM Roy Bekken <roy.bekken@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > > > > On fredag 9. februar 2024 04:04:04 CET Steve Cossette wrote: > > > > > I am not gonna reply to all of that because all we are doing at this > > > point > > > is repeating the same thing. But we are NOT stopping you from using > > > x11. > > > You can either build it yourself and put it on a copr (it’s not like > > > neal > > > is using voodoo in his copr), use the copr we provide or … > > > > > > > > > > This is extremely hostile towards new people trying linux for the very > > first time, asking them to add a copr repo if they have problems with > > wayland to try X11, its unlikely they ever heard this stuff before. > > > > > > > > Most likely they are trying out Fedora on a live media. > > > > > > > And they're not going to get an X11 experience on live media even now. > Wayland has been used for all environment modes since Fedora 36. I am aware if this. So you are saying that its perfectly fine that someone new to linux boot into a desktop that microstutters when they move windows around? > > > > > With the change proposal, fedora (as a distro) the kde sig has proposed > > > to > > > move away from packaging x11 for plasma 6, and by accepting the > > > proposal, > > > fedora (as an entity) agreed. > > > > > > > > > > > > Fedora has a reputation of moving forwards, not going backwards. > > > > > > > > > > Moving so fast forward that they are leaving the users behind. > > > > > > > > If Fedora is so great then why do I find stuff like this? > > https://github.com/Zer0CoolX/Fedora-KDE-Minimal-Install-Guide > > > > > > > > 15 Forks and 167 Stars btw > > > > > > > That is not a particularly good indication of popularity. Also, it's 4 > years out of date. Just like the majority of Fedora users don’t read the devel mailing lists, the majority don’t give stars when they download from gh. Yeah its 4 years old, I don’t know what happens but im gonna take a wild guess and assume that person gave up. -- _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue