On Thu, Feb 1, 2024 at 1:53 AM Kevin Kofler via devel <devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > And the proposed "solution" of bumping Epoch fixes none of that. It just > introduces an Epoch that we will be stuck with forever. It will not > magically make the downgrade safe in any of the 3 situations you describe. While I don't like epochs, there is nothing intrinsically wrong with an epoch bump when a packager determines that they need to downgrade because the testing for the upgrade was insufficient or inadequately performed and the packager found that there was no way forward with fixes to the new versions (either from upstream, or by the packager). Sometimes the packager (or upstream) screws up, and the epoch bump is the "get out of jail (mostly) free card" for the packager. If you don't want a "get out of jail (mostly) free card", more power to you, for you are committing to fix any/all issues. Sometimes not every Fedora packager has commit access to the upstream sources. -- _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue