Hi everyone, I wanted to bring up something that has bothered multimedia users and developers for a long time about Fedora - the ownership of devices. Currently, in Fedora, permissions are set to 600. Ownership is set to root, until a user logs in, and then it gets owned by the user. This has multiple problems. a) user switching assigns ownership to the first user that managed to log in on the machine. A second login under a different account will not be able to use sound or video devices b) server programs like flumotion and icecast cannot be installed to work as a service without manual intervention A lot of other distributions solve this simply by creating a group for these devices, "audio", "sound", "media", whatever. Then normal users get added to this group, and rpms can as part of the install add their newly-created user to this group, and everyone is happy. The only problem is that apparently it is hard for an rpm to add a group when a system is being upgraded between distros; ie, while anaconda could add this new group just fine, people doing a dist upgrade, it is claimed, will not get this group installed. I would like to know if anyone else sees this as a problem (I have to explain the situation to users that want to install and run flumotion pretty much every time someone tries it). At this point I am very tempted to do evil things from the flumotion rpm just so this problem gets dealt with instead of being shuffled under the carpet :) Comments appreciated, Thomas Dave/Dina : future TV today ! - http://www.davedina.org/ <-*- thomas (dot) apestaart (dot) org -*-> I can't go away with you on a rock climbing weekend What if something's on TV and it's never shown again Just as well I'm not invited I'm afraid of heights I lied about being the outdoor type <-*- thomas (at) apestaart (dot) org -*-> URGent, best radio on the net - 24/7 ! - http://urgent.fm/ -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list