Re: Possible deprecation/removal of Initial Setup from Fedora

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On Sat, Nov 25, 2023 at 12:21 AM Leslie Satenstein via devel
<devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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> I am a devout anaconda bigot, and  I exclusively use the Everything.iso with it.
> Of course, I use it via terminal mode.
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> A feature I relish in anaconda, is the ability to manage disks and partitions.(using the right most radio button)
> My system has 2 SSD and 6 disks, and with anaconda, I select all of them and then
> use the mentioned disk management to build the target system along with a completed /etc/fstab.

This is run during install and is a different usecase to initial-setup
which doesn't offer disk configuration options.

> If I was looking to improve anaconda, I would add a one or two line description against each group.
> the right most application selection column.
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> As well, an option to offer a way to respond to what "Gerd Hoffmann" was posting,
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> Please do not add another tool, just embellish anaconda to include the extra functionality.
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> Leslie Satenstein
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> On Friday, November 24, 2023 at 06:18:47 p.m. EST, Adam Williamson <adamwill@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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> On Fri, 2023-11-24 at 13:38 +0100, Jiri Konecny wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I wonder, I thought that the server images are usually using Anaconda to
> > create a user during installation. Am I missing something?
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> No, I think you're right there. initial-setup is not part of the
> anaconda-deployed Server package set. anaconda - as it does for all
> other spins/editions except Workstation - requires you to create a root
> password or admin user, so you can always log in.
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> I think if initial-setup was included in the package set, it would run
> on boot if you didn't *both* set the root password *and* create a user
> (as it does on spins where it is installed, e.g. KDE), but it isn't.
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> I tested this with a Server DVD image I had lying around; doing an
> install with only root password (no user created) didn't run initial-
> setup on boot, and rpm shows initial-setup not installed.
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> However, as dgilmore noted, the Server ARM disk images certainly do
> rely on initial-setup.
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> >
> > Best Regards,
> > Jirka
> >
> > Dne 22. 11. 23 v 13:53 Gerd Hoffmann napsal(a):
> > > On Tue, Nov 21, 2023 at 08:07:06AM -0800, Davide Cavalca wrote:
> > > > On 2023-11-21 04:34, Jiri Konecny wrote:
> > > > > Is Anaconda Initial Setup important for your project or workflow? What
> > > > > functionality is absolutely necessary for you? Do you use the text
> > > > > mode or the graphical mode? Are you aware of any alternatives? Is
> > > > > there anything that would prevent you from migrating to one of the
> > > > > proposed alternatives? Also please feel free to share this mail to any
> > > > > relevant groups.
> > > > The Fedora Asahi Remix uses initial-setup (in text mode) for our Server and
> > > > Minimal variants.
> > > I think this is used by *all* server images.  It offers to set the root
> > > password and add users, so without that you simply can't login ...
> > >
> > > take care,
> > >    Gerd
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