On Mon, 2023-11-27 at 14:12 +0100, mkolman@xxxxxxxxxx wrote: > On Fri, 2023-11-24 at 15:15 -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: > > On Tue, 2023-11-21 at 13:34 +0100, Jiri Konecny wrote: > > > Hello everyone, > > > > > > Is Anaconda Initial Setup important for your project or workflow? > > > What > > > functionality is absolutely necessary for you? Do you use the text > > > mode > > > or the graphical mode? Are you aware of any alternatives? Is there > > > anything that would prevent you from migrating to one of the > > > proposed > > > alternatives? Also please feel free to share this mail to any > > > relevant > > > groups. > > > > In addition to the other uses identified: if you do a KDE install and > > set the root password but do not create a user account, i-s will run > > on > > first boot and allow (not sure if it requires) user creation. This is > > probably the case for other non-GNOME desktops too (GNOME uses its > > own > > gnome-initial-setup). > Sure, but is this really necessary on those images ? If it only > triggers if no user account is present only only provides user > creation, what about enforcing user creation at installation time > instead ? > > That would simplify the whole thing, as there would be less scenarios > to test/debug/go wrong. The problem, as always, is different use cases. We want to very strongly encourage people to create a user before logging in on KDE installs, as we really don't want people using KDE as root. But for a small headless install, someone might want to operate as root without a user account. Workstation has sorted this out by disabling user/root spokes in the installer entirely and having its own g-i-s which requires creation of an admin user, but we don't have anything like that in place for KDE currently. So we have to try and manage both KDE and e.g. a minimal or Server install as best we can, using essentially the same workflows. If someone wants to do some customization for KDE, of course, that could help. -- Adam Williamson (he/him/his) Fedora QA Fedora Chat: @adamwill:fedora.im | Mastodon: @adamw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx https://www.happyassassin.net -- _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue