On 9/7/05, Gilboa Davara <gilboada@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Second, a user that tried Fedora (and failed) or worse, a user that > switched from Fedora to <insert another distribution name here> is a > user that will never return to Fedora. > Even much worse, a switching Windows XP user, that sees a kernel panic > due to a DRI problem in anaconda is a user that will never try Linux > again. > We will never know how many Fedora users we have lost due to the iso > boot problem (bug 159026) or the catastrophic "Linux killed my Windows > boot problem" (bug 115980) In the days of the floppy boot it was easier... the user could just download an updated boot floppy when the provided kernel on the CD was unable to boot... There really are two discussions going on here, one is about installer updates and one is about packing updated RPMs. They may have differing solutions, for example, it would be possible to provide the complete installer as an image for a USB memory stick, this would allow someone who hit an installer bug to get a fixed installer. Many systems can boot off of USB memory sticks... at least that would help some people. The updated package issue I 'solve' here by rsyncing the yum cache off an existing up to date fedora box before doing a yum update... still requires internet access but at least it is not hours of downloading per system. -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list