Fedora CoreOS Meeting Minutes 2023-08-16

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#fedora-meeting-1: fedora_coreos_meeting
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Meeting started by dustymabe at 16:31:10 UTC. The full logs are
available at
https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2023-08-16/fedora_coreos_meeting.2023-08-16-16.31.log.html
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Meeting summary
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* roll call  (dustymabe, 16:31:15)

* Action items from last meeting  (dustymabe, 16:36:32)

* New Package Request: AWS amazon-ssm-agent for AWS EC2 AMI  (dustymabe,
  16:37:57)
  * LINK: https://github.com/coreos/fedora-coreos-tracker/issues/1537
    (dustymabe, 16:38:03)
  * AGREED: We will not include the amazon-ssm-agent in Fedora CoreOS.
    We have generally not shipped cloud agents in the past and the
    package is only available from third party repos. If users want to
    layer this package they have that option.  (dustymabe, 16:46:41)

* low memory systems with large disks fail to provision  (dustymabe,
  16:47:29)
  * LINK: https://github.com/coreos/fedora-coreos-tracker/issues/1535
    (dustymabe, 16:47:32)
  * AGREED: We will attempt to make the autosave-xfs code not request a
    reprovision if the memory in the system is too low. We will also
    develop a CLHM helper script that checks agcount in the root
    filesystem (if it is XFS) and give the user a proper message if it's
    too low.  (dustymabe, 17:06:48)

* Low memory machines fails to intialize/boot fcos  (dustymabe,
  17:07:16)
  * LINK: https://github.com/coreos/fedora-coreos-tracker/issues/1540
    (dustymabe, 17:07:20)
  * LINK:
    https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fedora/latest/release-notes/welcome/Hardware_Overview/#hardware_overview-specs
    (travier, 17:09:06)
  * we have documentation for minimum system requirements at
    https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fedora/latest/release-notes/welcome/Hardware_Overview/#hardware_overview-specs
    (dustymabe, 17:12:20)

* tracker: Fedora 39 changes considerations  (dustymabe, 17:15:30)
  * LINK: https://github.com/coreos/fedora-coreos-tracker/issues/1491
    (dustymabe, 17:15:35)
  * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/LibuserDeprecation
    (dustymabe, 17:16:12)
  * This should not impact us. rpm-ostree and ostree do not link to
    libuser.   (dustymabe, 17:18:52)
  * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/LLVM-17   (dustymabe,
    17:19:20)
  * This should not affect us or should be transparent.  (dustymabe,
    17:19:54)
  * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/MigrateIfcfgToKeyfile
    (dustymabe, 17:20:25)
  * This should not affect us. Fedora CoreOS never supported ifcfg style
    network configuration files.  (dustymabe, 17:20:42)
  * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/IBus_1.5.29
    (dustymabe, 17:21:18)
  * Nothing to do. We don't ship IBUS.   (dustymabe, 17:21:56)
  * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Indic_Noto_fonts
    (dustymabe, 17:22:17)
  * We don't ship fonts.  (dustymabe, 17:22:27)
  * LINK:
    https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/AnacondaWebUIforFedoraWorkstation
    (dustymabe, 17:22:50)
  * Nothing for us to do. We don't ship Anaconda and this change is
    targetted at Workstation.  (dustymabe, 17:23:22)
  * LINK:
    https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/BuildJdkOncePackEverywhere
    (dustymabe, 17:23:41)
  * Nothing to do. We don't ship Java.  (dustymabe, 17:23:54)
  * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/GNUToolchainF39
    (dustymabe, 17:24:12)
  * This would should be transparent to us. We'll pick up packages as
    they get rebuilt and actively test them in our `rawhide` stream.
    (dustymabe, 17:24:39)
  * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/cleanup_systemd_install
    (dustymabe, 17:25:30)
  * Nothing for us to do. We will continue to use GRUB for now.
    (dustymabe, 17:27:07)
  * LINK:
    https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/NoCustomQtThemingForWorkstation
    (dustymabe, 17:27:29)
  * Nothing for us to do. This one is Workstation specific.  (dustymabe,
    17:27:40)
  * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/RetireModularity
    (dustymabe, 17:27:56)
  * We've already done some work in
    https://github.com/coreos/fedora-coreos-tracker/issues/1513 to
    remove modular repos from F39+.   (dustymabe, 17:30:03)
  * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/sericea-xorgless
    (dustymabe, 17:30:32)
  * Nothing for us to do. This is Sericea and Sway spin specific.
    (dustymabe, 17:30:45)
  * LINK:
    https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Python_Extension_Flags_Reduction
    (dustymabe, 17:31:04)
  * Nothing for us to do. We don't ship python.  (dustymabe, 17:31:24)
  * LINK:
    https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Passkey_authentication_centrally_managed_users
    (dustymabe, 17:31:45)
  * No work for us to do here. If there are AD managed FCOS systems I
    imagine the change could be picked up by them.  (dustymabe,
    17:32:36)
  * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/ibus-anthy_1.5.15
    (dustymabe, 17:33:03)
  * Nothing for us to do. We don't ship ibus.  (dustymabe, 17:33:12)
  * LINK:
    https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/KDEKinoiteAutoUpdateByDefault
    (dustymabe, 17:33:29)
  * Nothing for us to do. This is kinoite specific.  (dustymabe,
    17:33:42)

* open floor   (dustymabe, 17:33:49)

Meeting ended at 17:37:36 UTC.




Action Items
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Action Items, by person
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* **UNASSIGNED**
  * (none)




People Present (lines said)
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* dustymabe (148)
* travier (45)
* zodbot (16)
* spresti (14)
* ravanelli (4)
* jmarrero (4)
* gursewak (3)
* marmijo (2)
* aaradhak85 (2)
* mnguyen (1)




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