I'm a Red Hat employed engineer, working on all Fedora, CentOS Stream and RHEL. This is what each means for me in particular (but should also be applicable in general) in practice: * RHEL - only when I'm bound by some legal requirement (embargo, etc.) I do work 'RHEL only' (not visible in CentOS stream). In practice, such work is expected to be seen in CentOS Stream once the legal barrier falls / expires. * CentOS Stream - all work (except abovementioned) for RHEL is done here. The code has been available here (for 2 years already for C9S): https://gitlab.com/redhat/centos-stream/ Are you missing anything? (codebase-wise) This means my work on RHEL is visible unlike ever before. Open to submissions via merge requests Also merge requests where I develop changes are open to examination during my development of them. (unlike anytime before) * Fedora - unlike RHEL or CentOS, this is the place where I can develop new features. I don't have this space downstream. So tuning packaging, trying out various enhancements, adopting big upstream changes, packing latest greatest upstream releases. All that will be branched to form a new RHEL one day. This is the only way for me to introduce big changes. As I see it, both RHEL and Fedora profit from that to maximum. And I don't expect this relationship to go away anytime soon. However I might have misunderstood the core of this discussion. -- Michal Schorm Software Engineer Core Services - Databases Team Red Hat -- On Thu, Jun 22, 2023 at 11:39 AM Miroslav Suchý <msuchy@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > Dne 22. 06. 23 v 10:44 Michael J Gruber napsal(a): > > In each case, the way it was done and communicated was literally begging for bad press. > > ... > > > > So, the signal is either "we don't care about our upstream" or "we do not understand upstream's importance and concerns". > > None of the last two. It is first one out of these three: wrongly communicated and begging for bad press. > > I think that RH engineers are pretty bad in communicating things. Me included. > > -- > Miroslav Suchy, RHCA > Red Hat, Manager, Packit and CPT, #brno, #fedora-buildsys > _______________________________________________ > devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ > List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
