On Fri, 16 Jun 2023 at 12:08, Miro Hrončok <mhroncok@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On 16. 06. 23 9:57, Bastien Nocera wrote:
>
>
> On Fri, 16 Jun 2023 at 09:48, Miro Hrončok <mhroncok@xxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:mhroncok@xxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
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> On 16. 06. 23 9:41, Bastien Nocera wrote:
> > Scolding people that haven't seen your original message for limitations
> in the
> > build system isn't nice.
>
> Apologies for not being nice enough. However, we need to notify the folks who
> do that and ask them to stop, because as you say, the system is not perfect.
>
> If you have specific suggestions, please speak up.
>
>
> Yes, tell folks that they might have missed an email instead of sending a
> scolding " Please, don't do that."
Thanks for the suggestion. I honestly had no idea that "please, don't do that"
could be considered unfriendly, but I hope that's language/cultural barrier
(rather than me being a sociopath). I've adjusted my wording in the followup
emails.
Thanks for heeding advice in good grace :)
> > I fixed my missing the devel-announce email by subscribing to the list
> (though
> > this should probably be implemented somewhere in the accounts system)
> but I'm
> > afraid I cannot do anything about the build system not allowing for
> specific
> > blocking of builds in circumstances such as yours.
>
> I kindly ask you not to submit rawhide builds of packages that have been
> already built in our side tag, until the side tag is merged. If you cannot do
> that, I kindly ask you not to build any packages until the side tag is merged.
> Unfortunately, asking people is the only thing I am able to do.
>
>
> I'm talking about limitations in the build system that don't allow you to
> automatically do what you're trying to get *people* to do instead.
>
> People are fallible, and filing an RFE for the build system would go some way
> to shifting the burden to a computer.
This has actually been discussed on this list several times already, but Fabio
was kind enough to file that RFE today:
https://pagure.io/koji/issue/3847
That said, most of Fedora's RFEs to Koji that would make things easier for
packagers seem to linger, presumably due to capacity reasons.
I think it's important, whether we can implement solutions now or not, to track those problems. It will make it easier for others to find the ticket, and comment on whether it would have been useful to them, and maybe figure out just how much time they could have saved using those features.
Cheers
--
Bastien Nocera
he/him/his
he/him/his
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