Hello! I have updated contingency plan: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/BuildJdkOncePackEverywhere#Contingency_Plan / https://fedoraproject.org/w/index.php?title=Changes%2FBuildJdkOncePackEverywhere&type=revision&diff=679828&oldid=679493 Sorry for not writing this out of the box. It was written so many times I consider it as "widely known" but obviously I was wrong. Sorry for that. J. On Tue, 30 May 2023 at 20:38, Aoife Moloney <amoloney@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > This document represents a proposed Change. As part of the Changes > process, proposals are publicly announced in order to receive > community feedback. This proposal will only be implemented if approved > by the Fedora Engineering Steering Committee. > > == Summary == > > This is the last step in > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MoveFedoraJDKsToBecomePortableJDKs > effort. Jdks in fedora are already static, and we repack portable > tarball into rpms. Currently, the portbale tarball is built for each > Fedora and Epel version. Goal here is to build each jdk > (8,11,17,21,latest (20)) only once, in oldest live Fedora xor Epel and > repack in all live fedoras. > > == Owner == > > * Name: [[User:jvanek| Jiri Vanek]] > * Email: jvanek@xxxxxxxxxx > > > == Detailed Description == > > As described in > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MoveFedoraJDKsToBecomePortableJDKs ; > during last year, packaging of JDKs had changed dramatically. As > described in same wiki page, and individual sub changes and devel > threads, with primary reason this - to lower maintenance and still > keep fedora java friendly. > > * In first system wide change, we had changed JDKs to build properly > as standalone, portable jdk - the wey JDK is supposed to be built. I > repeat, we spent ten years by patching JDK to become properly dynamic > against system libs, and all patches went usptream, but it become > fight which can not be win > > * as a second step we introduced portable rpms, which do not have any > system integration, only builds JDK and pack final tarball in RPM for > free use. > > * In third step - without any noise, just verified with fesco - > https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/2907 - we stopped building JDK in fully > integrated rpms. Instead of this, normal RPMS BUildRequire portable > rpms and just unpack it, and repack it. > > Now last step is ahead - to build portable LTS JDKs 8,11,17 and 21 in > oldest live Fedora, and repack everywhere. java-latest-openjdk, which > contains latest STS jdk - currently 20, soon briefly 21 and a bit > alter 22... Should be built in latest live EPEL - epel8 now. We have > verified, that such repacked JDKs work fine. > > == Feedback == > > > == Benefit to Fedora == > > java maintainers will finally some free time... No kidding - > maintenance and *certification* of so much supported JDKs on so much > Fedora versions is brutal. By building once, and repack, we will > regain cycles to continue support Fedora with all LTS and one STS > javas. > > If we fail to build once and repack everywhere, java maintainers will > most likely need to lower the number of JDKs in fedora to system one > only. > > == Scope == > * Proposal owners: Technically all jdks (except 8, where some more > tuning is needed, and epels for java-latest) are prepared, as they > have portable version, and rpms just reapck it. Except tuning up the > jdk8 and epel for latest, scope owners are done. > > > * Other developers: There will be needed significant support from RCM > and maybe senior fedora leadership to help to finish the build in > oldest and enable to repack everywhere<!-- > > > * '''Release engineering: [https://pagure.io/releng/issue/11438 > #11438]''' There will be needed significant support from RCM, where > I'm actually unsure what they will have to do to enable this. The mas > rebuild will not be needed. > > > * Policies and guidelines: AFAIK none (not needed for this Change) > > * Trademark approval: N/A (not needed for this Change) > > * Alignment with Community Initiatives: All supported JDKS will remain > in Fedora in highest possible quality with full QA and certification, > and its packagers will not lose their minds. note, that QA will still > run on all live fedoras, not only on the builder one. > > > == Upgrade/compatibility impact == > > The change should be completely transparent to any user. > > > == How To Test == > > `sudo dnf update/install "java*"` will install expected set of working packages. > > > == User Experience == > > The change should be absolutely transparent to any user. > > > == Dependencies == > > To finish this we will need heavy support from RCM, and maybe others. > Although there are precedents with such package, they all bites. From > SW point of view, the dependence chain is `normal RPMs build requires > portable RPMs` and that's all. > > > == Contingency Plan == > > * Contingency mechanism: It should be stright forward to revert back > to building per OS > * Contingency deadline: N/A > * Blocks release? No. The change can be introduced even on the fly to > live distributions. > > == Documentation == > > N/A (not a System Wide Change) > > == Release Notes == > > > > -- > Aoife Moloney > > Product Owner > > Community Platform Engineering Team > > Red Hat EMEA > > Communications House > > Cork Road > > Waterford > _______________________________________________ > devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ > List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
