Re: F39 Change Proposal: Build JDKs once, repack everywhere (System-Wide Change)

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On Thu, Jun 01, 2023 at 08:28:18AM -0400, Robert Marcano via devel wrote:
> On 6/1/23 3:51 AM, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
> >On Wed, May 31, 2023 at 05:27:47PM +0200, Jiri Vanek wrote:
> >>This was heavily discussed when we moved to portable build in rpms -
> >>https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/JdkInTreeLibsAndStdclibStatic
> >>Long story short yes, if yo wish to distribute jdk *binary* it have
> >>to pass java compliance suite.
> >
> >It sounds like the problem is the software isn't really open source
> >because it has some field of use restrictions.  The best plan would be
> >to change this upstream, and if that isn't possible then to remove it
> >from Fedora.
> >
> >Rich.
> >
> 
> It is the same discussion about Firefox that is already settled I
> think. The JVM code is open source, even free software. The
> trademark isn't. Mozilla doesn't allow anyone to call the browser
> Firefox without some rules.

Both projects involve heavy-handed enforcement of trademarks, but
don't seem to be the same issue.  (I'll leave this to lawyers to
answer definitely though.)

> Red Hat want to run the tests because Java corporate users want
> that, so Red Hat does it and at the same time helps to have a more
> robust Java ecosystem.

That's nice, and indeed RHEL ships OpenJDK.  The question is about
what we do in Fedora.

Rich.

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