On Mon, May 29, 2023 at 3:28 AM Kevin Kofler via devel <devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > Gary Buhrmaster wrote: > > RH's staff redundancies > > The position was clearly NOT redundant. The word (and all words are made up) is used by organizations to meet certain legal requirements (talk to *your* lawyer for a better explanation of all the details and subtleties of employment law if you don't understand employment law, as it is complex (and even more complex in multi- national organizations such as IBM and RH as some countries have "interesting" requirements); my understanding is based on occasional discussions with my employment lawyer colleagues, and I have mostly decided that is not a field I wish to become an expert in). > This is just RH unilaterally killing > jobs including a central Fedora position in order to increase IBM's profits. Any particular position (in a large enough company like IBM, or RH) has about zero impact on any organization's profits. It *may* indicate priorities (which is a completely different discussion, and which you might, legitimately, ask if IBM and RH is committed, and at what level, to Fedora in the long term(*)). Personally, I think the Fedora Program Manager (as embodied most recently in Ben) provided value to the Fedora community, as some of the work being done was something that volunteers cannot easily pick up (simply due to available time (resources)). I fervently hope that the council members will not (in the long term) try to "make do" with fewer people (asking others to do 130%), but will either offload to the community, or drop (after consultation with the community) some of the work the Program Manager or other members of the Council did (there needs to be a prioritized list of work and reassigments). If no one is willing/able to step up, some functions will need to be terminated for the good of the work/life balance of the remaining Council members (yes, some people live to work, and work to live, but that is not something we should expect of our hatters.). (*) Someone, and I am not sure of the process or protocol, should ask RH what they see and want Fedora to be, and how they intend to support (fund) that going forward. It is, perhaps, not a place I (or you) wish to be, but right now all we really know is that RH has decided to de-commit some resources. Perhaps they intend to add more resources in a different way. I would like to think that discussion may have happened (or at least started) at the RH summit, but as I do not not attend (no one is paying my attendance), I have no idea. _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
