Re: It’s time to transform the Fedora devel list into something new

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On Thu, Apr 20, 2023 at 05:20:37PM -0400, Matthew Miller wrote:
> First, I’d like to move the Changes discussion. They will still be
> posted to devel-announce, but responses directed to Project Discussion
> in a new #changes tag. Ben tells me that this is a FESCo decision,
> which seems reasonable.

I think this is a great place to start. If it works, wonderful. If it
doesn't work, then we can delay/abort/redesign any later steps.

> Second, I think other FESCo-related conversations should move. I hope
> this will reduce the urge to have back-and-forth exchanges in the
> tickets. For the Fedora Council, I set up a bot which automatically
> creates a discussion topic when a ticket is filed, leaving the ticket
> just for votes and recording of outcome. FESCo could use something
> similar.

Could we instead have a poll which is open only to members in a FAS
group and tally those votes? I guess this would be useful for other
things too. (E.g. as a replacement for blocker-review [1]).

[1] https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review

> And finally… shut down the devel list itself. Perhaps at the end of
> 2023?

That seems way too early. Let's not plan for this until it is clear
that we can do that without losing contributors.

> We should also shut down all of the little lists that haven’t had
> anything but spam in the last two years. We could maybe do that sooner.
> We should stop creating new lists now — we can create new Discussion
> tags instead.

Ack. There's also https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/2982 on the same topic
now.

> For right now, though: let’s discuss — on the list!

Thank you for this detailed proposal. I think it was very clear and
even and written in a way that led the discussion in good directions.

Zbyszek
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