Thank you for the feedback. What if you install google-noto-sans-cjk-fonts instead of google-noto-sans-cjk-vf-fonts? just wanted to make sure if this is a variable font-related issue or design-related update in Noto CJK. Also, good to try on non-flatpak app too. it is a bit complicated to make sure if they use the expected fonts. The best way may be to check it out on pango-view and hb-view. On Tue, Mar 14, 2023 at 10:58 PM <yanqiyu@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > Hi, > > Seems that some changes mentioned below just hit > fedora:fedora/38/x86_64/testing/silverblue today in version > 38.20230314.0. And ostree diff is below (changes between 38.20230313.0 > and 38.20230314.0, filtered to show only fontconfig files for CJK): > > D /usr/etc/fonts/conf.d/65-0-google-noto-sans-cjk-ttc.conf > D /usr/etc/fonts/conf.d/65-google-noto-cjk-fonts.conf > D /usr/share/fontconfig/conf.avail/65-0-google-noto-sans-cjk- > ttc.conf > D /usr/share/fontconfig/conf.avail/65-google-noto-cjk-fonts.conf > A /usr/etc/fonts/conf.d/65-0-google-noto-sans-cjk-vf-fonts.conf > A /usr/etc/fonts/conf.d/65-google-noto-sans-cjk-mono-vf-fonts.conf > A /usr/etc/fonts/conf.d/65-google-noto-sans-cjk-vf-fonts.conf > A /usr/share/fontconfig/conf.avail/65-0-google-noto-sans-cjk-vf- > fonts.conf > A /usr/share/fontconfig/conf.avail/65-google-noto-sans-cjk-mono-vf- > fonts.conf > A /usr/share/fontconfig/conf.avail/65-google-noto-sans-cjk-vf- > fonts.conf > > But I am noticing some font being very thin, including English fonts in > Evince when not using embed fonts and all non-UI text in Telegram (both > Evince and Telegram is installed from flatpak). > > I don't know if this should be considered as a bug from this change or > just several applications not being compatible with VF fonts and should > be reported to their upstream separately. > > Cheers, > Qiyu Yan > > --- > This is an example of a random PDF file not being rendered correctly: > https://texdoc.org/serve/latexmk/0 > > Firefox can correctly render fonts with different weight while Evince > will produce equal-weight result. > > 在 2023-01-09星期一的 13:28 -0500，Ben Cotton写道： > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Noto_CJK_Variable_Fonts > > > > This document represents a proposed Change. As part of the Changes > > process, proposals are publicly announced in order to receive > > community feedback. This proposal will only be implemented if > > approved > > by the Fedora Engineering Steering Committee. > > > > > > == Summary == > > Switch the default Noto CJK fonts for Chinese, Japanese and Korean > > from static to variable fonts. > > > > == Owner == > > * Name: [[User:pwu| Peng Wu]] > > * Email: pwu@xxxxxxxxxx > > > > > > == Detailed Description == > > In order to reduce the font size in Noto CJK fonts, we plan to switch > > to use the variable fonts by default. > > > > # Split the google-noto-cjk-fonts package into > > google-noto-sans-cjk-fonts and google-noto-serif-cjk-fonts, and > > provide the variable fonts in google-noto-sans-cjk-vf-fonts and > > google-noto-serif-cjk-vf-fonts. > > # Drop several sub packages which are not installed by default from > > the google-noto-cjk-fonts package. > > ## Like google-noto-sans-cjk-*-fonts, google-noto-sans-*-fonts, > > google-noto-sans-mono-cjk-*-fonts, google-noto-serif-cjk-*-fonts and > > google-noto-serif-*-fonts > > # Install the Noto CJK Variable Fonts by default. > > > > Fedora Copr for testing: > > https://copr.fedorainfracloud.org/coprs/pwu/noto-cjk/ > > > > == Feedback == > > > > > > == Benefit to Fedora == > > The variable fonts will reduce the disk space usage and live image > > size compared to the static fonts. > > > > {| class="wikitable" > > > + RPM Size > > > - > > ! Size (bytes) !! Noto Sans CJK !! Noto Serif CJK > > > - > > > Static Fonts || 130674365 || 181621033 > > > - > > > Variable Fonts || 64613100 || 56924710 > > > } > > > > == Scope == > > * Proposal owners: > > ** Package four font packages for Noto CJK fonts > > ** Retire google-noto-cjk-fonts in Fedora rawhide > > ** Switch to install variable fonts by default in fedora-comps and > > langpacks > > ** Submit pull request to lorax templates to use > > google-noto-sans-cjk-fonts in the boot.iso > > > > * Other developers: > > > > * Release engineering: > > * Policies and guidelines: N/A (not needed for this Change) > > * Trademark approval: N/A (not needed for this Change) > > * Alignment with Objectives: > > > > > > == Upgrade/compatibility impact == > > > > When upgrade, the variable fonts will be installed by default. > > > > == How To Test == > > > > * Please upgrade to Fedora 38 or rawhide to get the latest fonts > > * Install the variable fonts: google-noto-sans-cjk-vf-fonts and > > google-noto-serif-cjk-vf-fonts > > ** Check the google-noto-sans-cjk-ttc-fonts and > > google-noto-serif-cjk-ttc-fonts packages are replaced > > * Then use CJK locales to check if the new fonts have any problem > > > > == User Experience == > > > > This new variable fonts will reduce the disk space usage and live > > image size. > > > > == Dependencies == > > > > > > == Contingency Plan == > > > > * Contingency mechanism: Use the static fonts by default - > > google-noto-sans-cjk-fonts and google-noto-serif-cjk-fonts > > * Contingency deadline: N/A > > * Blocks release? 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