I wanted to say that Neil is correct, below. Apparently, some packages were not being pulled in, and that was creating the problems. So, things appear to have changed a little bit, but in general,not that much for non-DE setups. Best wishes! On Sunday, February 19, 2023 at 09:25:50 PM CST, Neal Gompa <ngompa13@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: On Sun, Feb 19, 2023 at 9:33 PM Globe Trotter via devel <devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > Hello, > > Since about Fedora 20 or so, I have been rolling my own Fedora spin without a desktop environment, and with openbox and slim (simple login manager). All worked well, because I did not need to roll these that often, with dnf upgrade on existing installations, except up until now when I need a new LiveCD for a new machine coming online. I last successfully made a LiveCD with Fedora 34. > > Recently, I went back to making a live cd for Fedora 37, and realized that there is a new way of handling these: specifically, I have to install env-group to resolve RH Bug:1891500. > > With an environment, it turns out one has to do something like > > > @^lxde-desktop-environment > > but I do not want an environment. > > I tried putting this in, and removing all the LXDE things > > -@'Dial-up Networking Support' > -@LXDE > -@Fonts > -@'LXDE Desktop' > -@'Multimedia' > -@base-x > -@core > -@fonts > -@'Guest Desktop Agents' > -@'Input Methods' > -@'Printing' > -@'Hardware Support' > -lxpanel > -lxlauncher > -libfm > -menu-cache > -pcmanfm > -lxde-common > > and this works, but not quite. I still get large components of the LXDE environment, slim (which I roll my personal rpm of) does not get started, and I get a slower system. > I tried explicitly getting rid of the following that I could see: > > -clipit > -galculator > -dnfdragora > -dnfdragora-updater > -xpad > -icon > -xarchiver > -xscreensaver > -gigolo > -samba\* > -firewall-config > -firewalld > -lx\* > > but still, there are lx\* things in the LiveCD. > > Can I get a LiveCD environment without all this, and with slim? > Yes, you can just avoid using environment groups altogether. The bug you reference should not apply in your case. -- 真実はいつも一つ!/ Always, there's only one truth! _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue