On Sat, Jan 28, 2023 at 02:14:58AM -0600, Bruno Wolff III wrote: > On Fri, Jan 27, 2023 at 18:43:56 -0800, > Gordon Messmer <gordon.messmer@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > >Second, I'd like to suggest that in the future, at least in > >Fedora, for any "install" or "update" operation that dnf performs, > >dnf's default behavior should be checking all of the direct and > >indirect dependencies of the packages being installed (or updated) > >and updating any dependencies which have updates available. > > > >Does anyone else have any opinions on the subject? Should I > >simply file a bug against dnf proposing this behavior? > > If there is a problem with not uodating dependencies when you do an > install or an update on selected packages, the packages dependencies > are not properly defined. You're correct, but ... It's quite often the case that updates fail because of a missing symbol in some library that wasn't updated. I think this even happens if you're using symbol versioning, but in any case many libraries don't use symbol versioning[1]. Gordon's suggestion is a pretty good one for fixing this common problem without making developers add full ">= version" dependencies to every BuildRequires line in every package they maintain. > I think the case where you don't want to keep the full system up to > date, but a selective update or install causes problems as well is > pretty rare. I think it might be reasonable to have an option that > requests doing a recursive update. I would consider this to be a low > priority feature request that has to compete with all of the other > work being done on dnf, rather than a bug. I don't work on dnf and > the people that do might feel differently. Not really that rare. I do this all the time. Especially useful when keeping a system "mainly" on a Fedora release, but selectively testing Rawhide packages. Rich. [1] https://www.berrange.com/posts/2011/01/13/versioning-in-the-libvirt-library/ -- Richard Jones, Virtualization Group, Red Hat http://people.redhat.com/~rjones Read my programming and virtualization blog: http://rwmj.wordpress.com Fedora Windows cross-compiler. Compile Windows programs, test, and build Windows installers. Over 100 libraries supported. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MinGW _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
