On Thu, Dec 22, 2022, at 12:35 PM, Ben Cotton wrote: > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Shorter_Shutdown_Timer > > This document represents a proposed Change. As part of the Changes > process, proposals are publicly announced in order to receive > community feedback. This proposal will only be implemented if approved > by the Fedora Engineering Steering Committee. > > == Summary == > A downstream configuration change to reduce the systemd unit timeout > from 2 minutes to 15 seconds. A problem I've seen in the past is that timeouts like this have very different effects on slow/heavily loaded systems. For example, an OpenStack environment that has relatively slow storage (or a public cloud environment without provisioned IOPS). Or a bare metal server that is loaded to the limit. The effect of a 15 second timeout in those scenarios is wildly different from that of a relatively idle desktop system with a SSD or modern NVMe drive. DBus for example defaults to a 25 second timeout on method calls, and I've seen problems like the above there. Ideally, we'd have a mechanism to define timeouts like this somehow relative to system speed (throughput) not simple wall clock time. That said, I think the simplest is for this change to only apply to desktop systems. _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue