Hi Folks, > On Tue, Jan 10, 2023 at 11:12:22PM +0800, 孙海勇 wrote: > > I want to add LoongArch to the official Fedora support architecture, > > This is really cool -- welcome, and I'd love to help make sure you succeed! > > > I'm currently a newbie in the Fedora community, so I need help from > > community developers, and would like someone to guide me on what to do > > next, such as what would be a better time to submit necessary patches to > > packages in the Fedora repository, how to develop in a collaborative > > manner, what other systems to be used for management, etc. In short, any > > information would be useful. Could I get help here? :) > > This message is a good start! There is a little bit of information here > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Architectures, but it's not really complete. > I'm afraid a lot of the knowledge is really held in a few people's heads. > Hopefully we can get you connected with the right people! There's generally about a 5 stage process from initial bootstrap of an arch to mainline Fedora support, it roughly lays out as follows: 1) Low level toolchain bring up 2) A small Linux kernel+userspace 3) Using 2) to build a reduced size/dep standard Fedora rpm userspace of a random Fedora release 4) Standalone koji instance shadowing the primary Fedora instance 5) Proposal to merge/import the architecture packages into the main Fedora koji instance >From your previous message [1] I gather you're basically now at 3) but I'm not sure if you're yet at 4 and doing a shadow build operation of rawhide. As part of stages 3 and 4 you'll likely have a bunch of hacks, patches and changes to both upstream project releases to add support for the architecture, or possibly as simple as bumping autoconf macros to detect the architecture that are required to get things to build or run. This will include things like spec changes that need to get merged into Fedora package git repos. Long before we get to proposing 5) this needs to be done and the shadow instance of koji should ultimately be building unchanged packages. Also before becoming a main Fedora architecture the infrastructure team will need to be able to source enterprise grade hardware that can be racked in a datacentre and remotely managed. There's likely some other requirements the infrastructure team has here. We have in the past not progressed to stage 5 on a number of archtectures, and aarch64 was delayed for some time from this, due to lack of readily available hardware for people to be able to purchase for testing, development and just general hacking purposes. I have read some articles about restrictions on getting Loongson chips [2] but I am not sure if that's all variants or just a subset of the Loongson architecture. I have in the past actually looked at getting a Loongson device or two but ultimately gave up because it was far from straight forward, this may end up being a problem. Peter [1] https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/secondary@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx/thread/7DDZMIPWP5AOZ7HTXDM4SHPXLNJMABQZ/ [2] https://www.theregister.com/2022/12/15/china_loongson_chip_export_ban/ _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
