> Am 30.12.2022 um 06:59 schrieb Nico Kadel-Garcia <nkadel@xxxxxxxxx>: > >> Am 28.12.22 um 11:49 schrieb Peter Boy: >>> >>> It is a good idea to make the timeout configurable. But the default timeout for servers must remain unchanged. >> >> My problem is not "defined timeouts" it is systemd delaying shutdowns >> for no obvious reasons. ... >> And as you asked: On my (bare metal) servers, Im am occasionally >> experiencing delayed shutdowns in the order of several minutes. >> >> This is simply inacceptable! If it is not acceptable for you, configure it to your needs. But the **default* values must provide the most safe operation possible and not require any intervention from the system administrator to achieve that. This has been a fundamental and outstanding principle of Fedora since long time ago, maybe even from the beginning. And I still remember very unpleasantly times where I could, of course, go online with a default Fedora installation without worrying, but Debian/Ubuntu to my surprise did not even install a Firewall, let alone safely preconfigured. The current values may be too high. But they have proven themselves at least. And as long as we don't have reliable data for more optimal values, it would be **negligent** to shorten them out of sheer impatience. The long time frames only come into effect anyway when something doesn't run as smoothly as one would like. And it is precisely in such a case that caution is called for. -- Peter Boy https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Pboy pboy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Timezone: CET (UTC+1) / CEST (UTC+2) Fedora Server Edition Working Group member Fedora docs team contributor Java developer and enthusiast _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
