On Sat, Dec 24, 2022 at 4:38 AM Steve Grubb <sgrubb@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > On Friday, December 23, 2022 1:34:48 PM EST Alexander Ploumistos wrote: > > On Fri, Dec 23, 2022 at 7:21 PM Steve Grubb <sgrubb@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > This is nice, but all I ever seen is a black screen and a spinning > > > circle. No text of any kind. If something were written to the console, > > > how do you see it? > > > > Have you tried hitting "Esc" when that happens? > > No. Why would I? There is no text on that screen that even mentions that is a > possible option. If that is possible, advertise it. Or better, kill the > graphical shutdown and explain why it's delayed. Even if systemd prints nice diagnostic messages, they're useless if nobody is going to see them. And I doubt that many people know that pressing the Esc key makes plymouth go away. Would it be possible to print an informative message in Plymouth instead? Something like "Shutdown is taking longer than expected, please do not force off the computer". Other parts of the system already use Plymouth for communicating other things to the user (asking for LUKS decryption password, showing system upgrade process, etc.) so I think that would make sense. It would also be far more obvious than "you need to press the Esc key to see what's going on - but don't ask me why it is that way or how I know that" ... Fabio _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue