Re: F38 proposal: Shorter Shutdown Timer (System-Wide Change proposal)

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On Sat, Dec 24, 2022 at 4:38 AM Steve Grubb <sgrubb@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> On Friday, December 23, 2022 1:34:48 PM EST Alexander Ploumistos wrote:
> > On Fri, Dec 23, 2022 at 7:21 PM Steve Grubb <sgrubb@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > This is nice, but all I ever seen is a black screen and a spinning
> > > circle. No  text of any kind. If something were written to the console,
> > > how do you see it?
> >
> > Have you tried hitting "Esc" when that happens?
>
> No. Why would I? There is no text on that screen that even mentions that is a
> possible option. If that is possible, advertise it. Or better, kill the
> graphical  shutdown and explain why it's delayed.

Even if systemd prints nice diagnostic messages, they're useless if
nobody is going to see them.
And I doubt that many people know that pressing the Esc key makes
plymouth go away.

Would it be possible to print an informative message in Plymouth
instead? Something like "Shutdown is taking longer than expected,
please do not force off the computer". Other parts of the system
already use Plymouth for communicating other things to the user
(asking for LUKS decryption password, showing system upgrade process,
etc.) so I think that would make sense. It would also be far more
obvious than "you need to press the Esc key to see what's going on -
but don't ask me why it is that way or how I know that" ...

Fabio
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