Re: F38 proposal: Unified Kernel Support Phase 1 (System-Wide Change proposal)

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On Thu, Dec 22, 2022 at 06:57:07AM -0500, Neal Gompa wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 22, 2022 at 6:40 AM Daniel P. Berrangé <berrange@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> > On Wed, Dec 21, 2022 at 11:56:32AM -0600, Dennis Gilmore via devel wrote:
> > > In my case, I have Network Manager config files included in my initrd
> > > and bootargs to bring up the network so that I get automatic disk
> > > decryption while on my home network, and prompted for a password when
> > > I am not at home. I think this a reasonable enough use case it should
> > > be considered in the long term plan. There was an effort many years
> > > ago that built the initramfs with the kernel, it was abandoned due to
> > > not being able to guarantee sources for the binaries in the initramfs,
> > > trying to dig up the details I am having trouble finding it, but legal
> > > blocked it there is a reference to it in an old FESCo meeting
> > > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel/2013-February/178220.html.
> >
> > I can't see any legal problem with source provision for the
> > binaries inside the initramfs. We're building the initrds and
> > UKIs inside koji, so we have a clear record of exactly what
> > binary RPMs went into the package, and thus have knowledge
> > of what sources are involved. This is the same situation we
> > already have in Fedora with libguestfs, where we're building
> > a disk image inside Koji bundling various binaries. Or for
> > that matter, not really different from building cloud disk
> > images, or any other deliverable that bundles together some
> > binaries from other RPMs and spits out some kind of image
> > or archive.
> >
> > > Additionally, we should also consider
> > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/DracutHostOnly and the size
> > > implications and why we moved to have kernel-core, kernel-modules, and
> > > kernel-modules-extra for cloud and different use cases.
> >
> > The UKI size for a VM should not be appreciably different from the
> > combination of the vmluinuz + locally generated initrd. The UKI
> > will contain a few more modules, as its initrd is built to cope
> > with Xen, VMware, HyperV + KVM[1], but this only adds a small amount
> > over a truly minimal initrd targetting 1 hypervisor. So I don't
> > expect the size of the UKI will be a problem.
> >
> 
> You need to add VirtualBox too. That's an incredibly common platform
> for Fedora to run as a guest.

That's easy enough, what kmod is typically required for disks in
VirtualBox ?

With regards,
Daniel
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