Re: F38 proposal: Unified Kernel Support Phase 1 (System-Wide Change proposal)

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On Tue, 2022-12-20 at 14:29 -0500, Neal Gompa wrote:
> Yeah, I seriously doubt this. Linux's model for supporting
> confidential computing is not user-friendly, so I expect low adoption
> and resistance once the flaws become apparent to would-be users.
> 

Neal, you are being unnecessarily negative. And user-friendliness is
directly related to the fact we do not have good support for it. This
proposal would make SecureBoot fundamentally transparent, and if you
don't see it and it works, I see no resistance happening.

SecureBoot may not be to your liking but is what is installed on 99% of
modern hardware sold, so it is a good idea to first show you can
support it. Then if you have interested you can propose "something
better".

Finally, unless this proposal harms Fedora I do not see why oppose it.
If, as you fear, it won't work ... then it won't and we'll try
something else. However, having some knowledge of the (security side of
the) matter I do not see why it wouldn't work, once all the pieces fall
in place.

In fact I would love to be able to test this, every time I run updates
I dread the many minutes wasted regenerating initrd when I have a
pretty standard configuration that requires really no special
drivers... the only issue probably being the use of LVM for the root
filesystem, which I hope we'll have a way to deal with (but I can do
without on the laptop).

Simo.

-- 
Simo Sorce
RHEL Crypto Team
Red Hat, Inc


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