https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/KDERemoveInitialSetup This document represents a proposed Change. As part of the Changes process, proposals are publicly announced in order to receive community feedback. This proposal will only be implemented if approved by the Fedora Engineering Steering Committee. == Summary == We currently don't use the initial-setup application in the main KDE Spin and Kinoite installation ISOs as everything gets configured at installation time via Anaconda. We thus want to remove this package from the installation ISOs while keeping it where we currently need it (pre-installed disk images, etc.). Note that an "initial setup" app is still needed to enable OEM-style installations (https://askubuntu.com/questions/1386806/what-is-oem-installation-regarding-linux-distributions) of the KDE Spin/Kinoite (like Fedora Workstation/Silverblue) so we're planning on introducing a more KDE native application as a replacement once it is ready, but that may not not happen as part of this change. == Owner == * Name: [[User:Siosm| Timothée Ravier]], [[User:Ngompa| Neal Gompa]] * Email: siosm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, ngompa@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx == Detailed Description == We'll remove the initial-setup package from the KDE Spin & Fedora Kinoite. This will fix a bug that is only visible on Kinoite (where the user gets a warning on first boot because / is read only) and will let us work on replacing it by another more KDE native application instead. OEM installations are installations where only the minimum is configured by the vendor (hardware provider) and everything else is done by the user on first boot. This is the default experience on Fedora Workstation and other major operating systems. See also: https://askubuntu.com/questions/1386806/what-is-oem-installation-regarding-linux-distributions. Note that this is not about removing Anaconda as an installer or from the Live ISO, but removing initial-setup. For Fedora Kinoite where we don't have a Live ISO but a separate installer ISO that includes Anaconda, this will effectively also remove Anaconda from the final system. See also the discussion in https://pagure.io/fedora-kde/SIG/issue/243 for potential alternatives. == Feedback == None so far. == Benefit to Fedora == * Smaller image * One less UX bug on Kinoite * Work in the direction of OEM installations for the KDE based variants == Scope == * Proposal owners: ** Remove the packages and test the change. Work on packaging alternatives and potential integration. ** OpenQA tests to update if we successfully enable the OEM installation mode. * Other developers: N/A * Release engineering: N/A * Policies and guidelines: N/A (not needed for this Change) * Trademark approval: N/A (not needed for this Change) * Alignment with Objectives: N/A == Upgrade/compatibility impact == Only impacts the first boot after installation. Should not impact updates. == How To Test == Once the change has landed in Rawhide, downloading the ISO and performing an installation should behave the same as currently. If we successfully have a replacement then folks will be able to test OEM installations. == User Experience == No change initially. If we successfully have a replacement then we can enable OEM installations. == Dependencies == N/A == Contingency Plan == * Contingency mechanism: (What to do? Who will do it?) Revert the change. * Contingency deadline: Anytime, probably before Beta * Blocks release? No == Documentation == N/A == Release Notes == N/A. If we add OEM installation support then we can mention that. -- Ben Cotton He / Him / His Fedora Program Manager Red Hat TZ=America/Indiana/Indianapolis _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue