On Wed, Nov 09, 2022 at 04:26:23AM +0000, Naheem Zaffar wrote: > On Tue, 8 Nov 2022, 19:22 Vitaly Zaitsev via devel, < > devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > On 08/11/2022 19:53, Naheem Zaffar wrote: > > > Has there been any consideration to turn on frame pointers for atleast > > > dev releases? > > > > > > Fedora has no dev releases. Mass rebuild is a huge pain for maintainers > > due to FTBFS issues, and doing it multiple times is unacceptable. > > > I think I explained the idea poorly. > > Not all builds in rawhide are release builds. You will get for instance the > whole gnome stack beta releases and rc releases during development. > > This isnt limited to gnome, most software will go into rawhide first to > stabilise. > > It is almost never intended for these builds to end up in the final > release ll, but they are useful and necessary parts of the development > cycle. Theywill be replaced before general availability, all without a mass > rebuild. > > It's not a silver bullet solution but atleast it starts things off on a > path where profiling can be done in a limited manner compared to the other > proposed alternatives where the tooling doesnt exist and will likely not > ever be written. The problem is, there's no one size fits all here. Different upstreams do wildly different things. Some have "stable" releases and "dev" releases before that. (Like gnome) Some just mix features and bugfixes into a single stream. Some only seem to have prereleases and take years to actually do a point release. etc. So, asking that "dev" releases use different options I think would just result in a bunch of confusion along with a mix of things with some using frame pointers and some things not. kevin
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