On Wed, 2 Nov 2022 at 05:04, Petr Pisar <ppisar@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
It used to be a good practice to announce changes in Packaging Guidelines
<https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/packaging-guidelines/> here on this
list. The forkflow was that Fedora Packaging Committee accepted a change on
it's meeting and then announced it in their meeting notes posted here. This
workflow allowed packagers to notice the changes and apply them to their
packages.
....
+=== Explicit lists
+
+Packagers *SHOULD NOT* simply glob everything under a shared directory.
+
+In particular, the following *SHOULD NOT* be used in `+%files+`:
+
+* `+%{_bindir}/*+`
+* `+%{_datadir}/*+`
+* `+%{_includedir}/*+`
+* `+%{_mandir}/*+`
+* `+%{_docdir}/*+`
To my surprise the first time when I get known to this new rule was today
in a review of my new package.
Ugh changes like that really need a bit more open discussion and they need to be announced here. What is the problem trying to be solved by this? Does this solution actually solve that problem or band-aid it?
That said, it isn't like I as a packager have been following the packaging committee enough to actually know what is going on. I have just taken it for granted that they would just do what I felt was the right thing without telling them that. Nor have I run for the packaging committee or spent time dealing with the crap that trying to deal with N factorial combinations of languages requires.
So what is the right way to deal with this? Have more people join the packaging list and start asking questions?
On this rule, I am not sure how large packages are going to work. My guess would be that some packager will come up with a script which just does the glob, and then outputs the data in a list which is then sed back to be `%{FOOdir}/blah1 %{FOOdir}/blah2 etc` And the problem trying to be solved of stuff getting added in without review.. will just go out the door.
Stephen Smoogen, Red Hat Automotive
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