On Wed, Oct 26, 2022 at 10:23:40AM +0200, Florian Weimer wrote: > * Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek: > > > On Tue, Oct 25, 2022 at 10:05:52AM -0400, Ben Cotton wrote: ...snip... > >> == How To Test == > > > > As discussed by others, this needs to explain how to opt-in for early > > testing, and also how to opt-out in packages, how to opt-out as a user > > (if the default touches users), etc. > > The challenge with that is that I've been told not to do this work in > Fedora proper by release engineering, and a request for a long-living > side tag with a suitable compiler has not been approved: > > Long-term side tag for toolchain experiment > <https://pagure.io/releng/issue/10392> Sorry that got dropped... The thread about it I suggested copr, some other folks thought that might work, and I don't recall ever hearing if that would work for you or not. So, seems communication broke down here somewhere. I suppose it's too late now for this to matter aside from us trying to not have it happen again? In the future, if a releng issue gets stuck, please do drop by the releng and infra standups (mon/tue/wed/thu) at 18UTC in #fedora-meeting-3 / meeting-3:fedoraproject.org and bring up the issue. > More recently, I was explicitly told not to keep the compiler changes on > a branch in Fedora dist-git. > > It is not really possible to get realistic testing through compiler flag > injection because crufty old code that is problematic for these changes > often does not inject flags properly. Certain likely changes cannot be > modeled through -Werror= options (but can be patched into GCC). Some > build systems explicitly filter out -Werror= options during the > configure stage (generally a good idea, but not helpful here). > > So I'm a bit at a loss what to do here. Maybe releng can reconsider > their approach. So, can you say that copr definitely will not work for this? If it will, great, use that. If it won't, we can make you a side tag, I don't really have any objection to it other than it seems like copr was better designed for this sort of work... kevin
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