On 9/3/22 02:58, Mattia Verga via devel wrote: > Il 03/09/22 06:36, Demi Marie Obenour ha scritto: >> On 9/2/22 13:49, Mattia Verga via devel wrote: >>> Here we go again: thunderbird 102 update was submitted to F36. >>> >>> This new version was known to bring incompatible changes to several >>> addons, yet it has been submitted to a stable Fedora release with >>> autopush enable and just a karma threshold of 2. It took less than 5 >>> hours from the time the update was submitted to the time the update was >>> pushed to stable. >>> >>> Package maintainers should put more attention when pushing critical >>> updates like this and avoid that the update being immediately pushed to >>> stable. >> Thunderbird 91 will go EOL eventually, assuming it has not done >> so already. As every Thunderbird update bring security fixes it is >> not possible to guarantee that such an update will not be necessary >> within the middle of a Fedora release. >> -- >> Sincerely, >> Demi Marie Obenour (she/her/hers) > > I do not argue with that, I'm just saying (ranting) that, knowing 102 > likely breaks installed addons, it seems to me that at least an > announcement on devel list prior to push it into a stable release would > have been appreciated. > > Moreover, thunderbird in on the critical path update list; Bodhi > requires 14 days of testing for those packages, but it is set to require > only +2 karma, so packagers easily bypass the testing phase, like it is > clearly happened here (pushed to stable just after 5 hours). I think > critpath updates should spend more time in testing, maybe we should > increase the critpath min karma to, at least, +5. For non-security, non-kernel, non-browser updates that would make sense. For security patches, anything that makes them take even longer to get to users is a bad idea. This includes kernel and browser patches. -- Sincerely, Demi Marie Obenour (she/her/hers) _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue