Re: Thunderbird 102 pushed to F36 stable

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On 9/3/22 02:58, Mattia Verga via devel wrote:
> Il 03/09/22 06:36, Demi Marie Obenour ha scritto:
>> On 9/2/22 13:49, Mattia Verga via devel wrote:
>>> Here we go again: thunderbird 102 update was submitted to F36.
>>>
>>> This new version was known to bring incompatible changes to several
>>> addons, yet it has been submitted to a stable Fedora release with
>>> autopush enable and just a karma threshold of 2. It took less than 5
>>> hours from the time the update was submitted to the time the update was
>>> pushed to stable.
>>>
>>> Package maintainers should put more attention when pushing critical
>>> updates like this and avoid that the update being immediately pushed to
>>> stable.
>> Thunderbird 91 will go EOL eventually, assuming it has not done
>> so already.  As every Thunderbird update bring security fixes it is
>> not possible to guarantee that such an update will not be necessary
>> within the middle of a Fedora release.
>> --
>> Sincerely,
>> Demi Marie Obenour (she/her/hers)
> 
> I do not argue with that, I'm just saying (ranting) that, knowing 102
> likely breaks installed addons, it seems to me that at least an
> announcement on devel list prior to push it into a stable release would
> have been appreciated.
> 
> Moreover, thunderbird in on the critical path update list; Bodhi
> requires 14 days of testing for those packages, but it is set to require
> only +2 karma, so packagers easily bypass the testing phase, like it is
> clearly happened here (pushed to stable just after 5 hours). I think
> critpath updates should spend more time in testing, maybe we should
> increase the critpath min karma to, at least, +5.
For non-security, non-kernel, non-browser updates that would make sense.
For security patches, anything that makes them take even longer to get to
users is a bad idea.  This includes kernel and browser patches.
-- 
Sincerely,
Demi Marie Obenour (she/her/hers)
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