On Mon, 15 Aug 2022 at 04:21, Vít Ondruch <vondruch@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
I just wonder, is the system upgrade to the more recent Fedora
automatic? I suspect that the answer is *no*, otherwise I would not need
yesterday to update the system from F33 (I am rawhide user, so pardon my
ignorance).
Therefore my question is, can it be automatic? Is it configurable?
It is not automatic nor is it configurable. Upgrades mostly work most of the time.. (maybe 80% of the time without any post intervention). But there are a lot of corner cases which require manual fixing for some reason or another.
Just FTR, the computer in question was my sister's computer and her
expectation was that the system would be automatically upgraded
similarly to other updates, where she is asked to apply the updates
prior shutdown. It never occurred to her that she would need to click on
something and I think that is fair expectation. I don't think that
Fedora should allow to keep the system outdated and without updates.
I don't know of an Operating System which isn't a rolling operating system which works this way. MacOS, Windows, Debian, Ubuntu, Fedora all require a manual clickthru to get to the 'next' version which is available. This is because these updates are the most likely to fail and you need to usually put the system in a 'do not touch, alter, etc.' while this is going on. It is also most likely that the failure state is 'broken, reinstall.' or 'I need to change a lot of different things on here and you need to actually know what they do when I ask if you still want this'.
I think for Fedora 34 and beyond, the user will now get a big banner on Workstation saying 'A new version of the operating system is ready for you' which will require them to click that they want to upgrade to it. That is about as easy as I can see it happening.
Yes, that is fine. But at the same time, there is no warning like "Your system won't be provided with updates anymore, because it is EOL" followed up with "While there is new version available, your system is too old to be upgraded, because we removed some metadata somewhere" in a while.
Just FTR, the update file with this unhelpfule message:
IOW I think it is far from being clear what will happen if the
system is not updated.
And BTW I am quite sure that Windows since Windows 7 -> 8 are quite suggestive with system upgrades. So while one have to click on button confirming the agreement, most will probably do to avoid the annoyance.
Vít
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