Re: F37 proposal: Officially Support Raspberry Pi 4 (Self-Contained Change proposal)

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On Thu, Jul 7, 2022 at 2:37 PM Ron Olson <tachoknight@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> I have a Pi 4 that runs Fedora just fine; I use it to build Swift (takes almost 24 hours, but ¯\_(ツ)_/¯) so what doesn’t work? What podcast was this mentioned on?

Core things have worked for some time, I know, I did the work, but
we've not officially *supported it*, there is quite a difference For
example no accelerated graphics  worked, a key thing for a lot of
people's use cases.

> On 6 Jul 2022, at 4:55, Neal Gompa wrote:
>
> > On Wed, Jul 6, 2022 at 2:49 AM Peter Boy <pboy@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >>
> >> I very much appreciate the work to support the various SBC devices like Raspberry Pi and workalikes. But I'm a little lost with this proposal.
> >>
> >>> Am 05.07.2022 um 23:16 schrieb Ben Cotton <bcotton@xxxxxxxxxx>:
> >>> The work around Raspberry Pi 4 has been on going for a number of
> >>> years, but we've never officially supported it due to lack of
> >>> accelerated graphics and other key features. A few of us have led the
> >>> push to get the accelerated graphics work over the line upstream so it
> >>> now makes sense to enable this in Fedora and make support for the
> >>> Raspberry Pi 4 more official.
> >>
> >> Why Raspberry Pi, and that as the only model from the large number of comparable devices?
> >>
> >> Why not other devices, whose makers - as far as I understood the discussion - are far more OSS friendly or e.g. explicitly name Fedora as a recommended operating system?
> >>
> >> I know, Raspberry Pi is very popular. But this looks to me a bit like Fedora, the proverbial uninvited guest shouting "me too" from his corner.
> >>
> >
> > Because one of the biggest complaints we get about Fedora ARM is that
> > it *doesn't* work. It was even featured in a recent podcast as a
> > severe problem with Fedora. The Raspberry Pi is the only mass produced
> > ARM device everyone can get their hands on *everywhere* (when in
> > stock). The device has penetrated the public consciousness in a way
> > nothing else has.
> >
> > And make no mistake, *all* SBCs are not very good at being OSS
> > friendly, even *if* they mention Fedora by name. Vendors generally do
> > not care about mainline support, and it's usually up to *someone else*
> > to get it done. The Raspberry Pi has the benefit of visibility, so
> > people try very hard to get it done.
> >
> >
> >
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