On Fri, Jul 01, 2022 at 08:02:35AM -0400, Colin Walters wrote: > I don't think so. I think RPM is a tool, a technique that can be used > where it makes sense. It is not and should not be the center of the > universe. Today in Fedora CoreOS we ship a bit of content that comes > directly from the https://github.com/coreos/fedora-coreos-config git > repository without having been pointlessly put into an RPM first. > > Building an intermediate RPM for content that is *only* intended to be run > as a container is just awkward and strange. I agree. RPM makes sense at for the things it solves well, but we should figure out how we can provide the same (or more) value in other ways too. I know this is a blast from the past, but this was a central idea from my talk at Flock in 2013 (https://mattdm.org/fedora/2013next/) and I still believe we need to get there. I'd love to see a way to generate Flatpaks directly from our build system without an intermediate step. Part of the justification for the current system is an early estimate that 95% of desktop apps already packaged could have flatpak versions without any additional work... that turned out to be not so in practice. It was a good experiment, but we shouldn't feel stuck to it. (Also, it was expecting a lot more improvements in modularity infrastructure which never got resourced for reasons not worth rehashing.) Same goes for some container content, too. Thinking about java stuff there in particular, as well as various web-apps we package. -- Matthew Miller <mattdm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Fedora Project Leader _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure