On Mon, 2005-07-11 at 21:37 -0700, Jesse Keating wrote: > I would really like to open this up to the discussion for the users and > developers of Fedora. This feature is very ingrained in a lot of our > muscle memories, deeply embedded in our internal and external > documentation for not just end users but entry level admins, group > admins, and a myriad of folks that really do have a use for the > terminal. Sure you can just as easily get to it by selecting it from a > menu, so that actually goes in my favor. If we're trying to 'protect' > the user, why have it in the menu at all? If the end user that Gnome > seems to care about won't notice, why not leave it so that the people > who have a clue and have the capability of helping out don't get pissed > off by yet another 'lets break history in favor of some "usability" we > think is right for the fabled holy grail of an end user'. > > This is yet another move in a long history of Gnome moves that makes me > wish somebody forked gnome a while ago and removed all these stupid > 'save the end user from themselves' changes. For god sakes, make a 'end > user safe' UI that has all these things in it, and then make a 'real > user' UI that actually allows work to be done in the way that it has > been done for years. it's not about making it safe, not in every case. It is about simplifying the applications. There's a lot to it - but having items on hidden menus is, in general, a bad idea. But if you want to affect change in this area please join the desktop-devel-list for gnome and discuss it. But bringing it up as a fedora-devel issue isn't really going to help. -sv -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
